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Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« on: November 16, 2013, 04:44:11 pm »
Trying to put a date area to this.  It is cloth with some sort of gesso or something so that the charcoal could be put on it.  The frame is carved wood.  Will need restoration work of course.  Trying to figure out why someone wrote on the wood in pencil the numbers 1145.  Can someone help me identify period and style?
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2013, 05:25:48 pm »
by the style of his hair,and his clothing...and his cravat..i,d say mid 19th century...as for the penciled numbers...could be someones pin number for their ATM card. :D
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2013, 05:30:53 pm »
Now if I can only get the card to go with that pin.  haha ;D
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2013, 06:47:34 pm »
Icedgold, I am just going to give my impression of this,,,somewhere between 1850 and 1880 or so !! Looks like this lady may have been a Quaker,,Pennsylvania area or there about !! Go down and read the post about Help dating a sculpture !! Look at the sculpture,,compare the two just for the heck of it !!  Similar look !!
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2013, 04:22:04 pm »
Very interesting, Mart.  This head must have been popular.  lol
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2013, 04:38:24 pm »
Quote from: mart on November 16, 2013, 06:47:34 pm
Icedgold, I am just going to give my impression of this,,,somewhere between 1850 and 1880 or so !! Looks like this lady may have been a Quaker,,Pennsylvania area or there about !! Go down and read the post about Help dating a sculpture !! Look at the sculpture,,compare the two just for the heck of it !!  Similar look !!
you,re needing yer peepers tested...he looks no more like a Quaker...than i do a Chinaman.... ;D
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2013, 06:21:57 pm »
http://www.quaker.org.uk/friends-china-0

Just talking about an overall look the ladies had Wullie !!
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2013, 06:29:43 pm »
I found it interesting when I was at an antique store a couple of months ago I came out and found a Quaker woman taking a picture of my license plate.  My plate says "HAPPYNS"  she found it amusing.  Very nice lady. Didn't realize there were some still around these days.
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2013, 06:36:35 pm »
Quote from: mart on November 17, 2013, 06:21:57 pm
http://www.quaker.org.uk/friends-china-0

Just talking about an overall look the ladies had Wullie !!
If that,s a lady.....then ,you,d better send me a couple pairs of your dollar cheaters.... ;D....
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 06:43:30 pm »
Bigwull, here in the U.S. the lines can be blurred sometimes.  haha   Had many times I have stood there debating if it was a male or female in front of me.  I really hate when a guy does his makeup better than me. lol
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 06:43:36 pm »
Quote from: icedgold10 on November 17, 2013, 06:29:43 pm
I found it interesting when I was at an antique store a couple of months ago I came out and found a Quaker woman taking a picture of my license plate.  My plate says "HAPPYNS"  she found it amusing.  Very nice lady. Didn't realize there were some still around these days.
I have Quakers every morning ..faur ma breakfast....made wi watter an salt.... ;D

     


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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2013, 06:52:37 pm »
I would bet if you could turn this one around you would find hair in a bun !!
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2013, 06:53:52 pm »
Hope your talking about the lady and not the oatmeal  ;D
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2013, 07:17:42 pm »
Quote from: icedgold10 on November 17, 2013, 06:43:30 pm
Bigwull, here in the U.S. the lines can be blurred sometimes.  haha   Had many times I have stood there debating if it was a male or female in front of me.  I really hate when a guy does his makeup better than me. lol
Well instead of using a 4in brush and a pallette knife,and a heavy hand....try a number 1 and a little more finesse... ;D
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Re: Need help with very old charcoal painting in carved wood frame
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2013, 07:21:15 pm »
Quote from: icedgold10 on November 17, 2013, 06:53:52 pm
Hope your talking about the lady and not the oatmeal  ;D

LOL !!
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