Teapot claiming to be 1810 Austrian

[mart]

There is no makers/proof mark on the bottom !!

[rayhs1984]

I guess this isn't solvable then

Thanks for the effort.  I'll try to find something with more information next time.

[mart]

 https://www.google.com/#q=austrian+pottery+and+porcelain+marks

There are several lists of Austrian porcelain and pottery marks on this page,, and another good site to search is www.porcelainmarksa ndmore.com !! Might give you an idea what the backstamps look like for your future buys !! When all you have is a pattern that may or may not be Austrian with no backstamp,,searching all the possibilities could take years !!

[KC]

Am I seeing the pictures correctly...

The teapot lid is cracked in two places?  That unfortunately devalues it.

Like Mart said, there isn't a makers mark on the bottom and the sources she referenced for you are grand.

I am sorry but I can't enlarge the picture on the pot enough to help you out.  Can you please take a better close up and report and/or describe it?

[bigwull]

I guess this isn't solvable then

Thanks for the effort.  I'll try to find something with more information next time.

No need for the sarcasm...what you have to understand is...even in this day and age..not everyone has superfast broadband...there are still some of us who have the old fashioned slow dial up,....furthermore,this piece of paper that was found in the pot...what you have to ask yourself,..why was it put there,....

[Ipcress]

"and as for this mark...i see the piece of paper..but the writing is indistinct"

That isn't on paper that is written into the the bottom of the pot . . .  what is there to not understand? I am just asking if anyone recognizes the proof mark.

That pic of the mark is basically the only important thing about this entire post and is the key to identifying this piece yet you seem to be ignoring it. If you don't know that is fine, but there is no reason to be rude.

Is there another landscape on the opposite side ?

There are some English teapots that have this style of handle from a similar period. Any chance of an image of the base at an angle in good light ?

[rayhs1984]

Is there another landscape on the opposite side ?

There are some English teapots that have this style of handle from a similar period. Any chance of an image of the base at an angle in good light ?

The other side also has a landscape yes
let me know if this link works now http://imgur.com/a/UBDjm#e0jizIV

[bigwull]

Is there another landscape on the opposite side ?

There are some English teapots that have this style of handle from a similar period. Any chance of an image of the base at an angle in good light ?

The other side also has a landscape yes
let me know if this link works now http://imgur.com/a/UBDjm#e0jizIV

....what part of "not everyone has superfast broadband" did you not grasp...to open links with dial up...is a No.No...it takes forever...and as you have posted 1 pic of this pot...why not post them all...

[rayhs1984]

people said the pics weren't working, but here you go

[bigwull]

people said the pics weren't working, but here you go

No one on here said the pics were,nt working...they said they could,nt open the link..because...... ....they still operate on DIAL UP...thats D I A L ..UP....= very slow,

[Ipcress]

Is there another landscape on the opposite side ?

There are some English teapots that have this style of handle from a similar period. Any chance of an image of the base at an angle in good light ?

The other side also has a landscape yes
let me know if this link works now http://imgur.com/a/UBDjm#e0jizIV

Thanks ! Not convinced it's Austrian but would need to handle it to get a better idea. Seen similar English ones before.

And you'll have to excuse Wullie's " overzealous " nature sometimes 

[bigwull]

here you....less of the overzealous....spad es are spades where i come from...

[rayhs1984]

Is there another landscape on the opposite side ?

There are some English teapots that have this style of handle from a similar period. Any chance of an image of the base at an angle in good light ?

The other side also has a landscape yes
let me know if this link works now http://imgur.com/a/UBDjm#e0jizIV

Thanks ! Not convinced it's Austrian but would need to handle it to get a better idea. Seen similar English ones before.

And you'll have to excuse Wullie's " overzealous " nature sometimes 

I am beginning to think that you are right it came with some others that have been since IDed (a Clews, a Spode Copeland's and some unmarked pieces).  Have received a offer from a English Ebayer on this piece for $50 which is more than the 6 pieces combined cost.

[Ipcress]

Hmmmm...not a bad price considering they have to pay for shipping. Would hold out for a touch more though ( pity about the cover )

I've also seen English pieces marked like that to the base when there's a firing crack. The crack is marked, the piece is not stamped with the factory mark or it's marked as a second ( a scratch through the trademark ) if that's already been put on.

Also think it's more common for English pieces to be unmarked.


Someone earlier questioned the date. Well i think the following link might be helpful. Click below and zoom on the image. Note the spout and handle - very similar to this piece. Berlin porcelain though is generally even finer and lighter than yours.

http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/5000038/tea-and-coffee-service

Also this Dresden piece

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8614395


If you're interested in identifying pieces in future, it would help to read up about hard / soft paste porcelain and it's history in Europe and the UK. Would only take an hour to get an idea.
 Marks aren't everything.

[icedgold10]

Excellent post Icpress!  That demonstrates time period very well.