Need help to indetify this object

[Ipcress]

I'd be surprised if it was that old. This type of ' artefact ' is quite common in UK auction rooms and it's generally 20th century. A simple, more naive design doesn't mean it's older.

Maybe the box is older but with a newer belt ?

[demien88]

Idk it might be but I doubt it belt is demaged but a little

[demien88]

Now I am apsolutley positive it is from Ottoman Empire but what bugs me is the belt on every item I
find online its missing or its nothing similar or decorative like on mine or its simply replaced by newer belt.
It just bugs me culd it be from some higher ranked Turcish officier or immportant person among millitary...
I rly hope I culd find somone that knows somthing more about Ottoman Empire

[bigwull]

Do you have to be rude all the time ?

He is "troll" I just canot belive somone that old have that much free time on his hands and to behave like little child....
Anyways waiting for some "profesionals" to get back to work so I can take item there and find out somthing new.

I,ve been called many things...but..have to admit..never a  troll...but i don,t mind....cos..sticks and stones may break my bones....but names will never harm me.....Now there are many things i could call you.......but... i have promised never again to let my emotions get the better of me....so i will keep my thoughts to myself.....

[Ipcress]

Now I am apsolutley positive it is from Ottoman Empire but what bugs me is the belt on every item I
find online its missing or its nothing similar or decorative like on mine or its simply replaced by newer belt.
It just bugs me culd it be from some higher ranked Turcish officier or immportant person among millitary...
I rly hope I culd find somone that knows somthing more about Ottoman Empire

The case would be better quality if it were for an officer or v.i.p

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.

[demien88]

Maybe they had some kind of lazy blacksmith xD. It is odd that silver is on belt if I am not mistaken it had
big value back then and that ruby looking rock have done basic tests and it passed but there is high posibility
that its fake need expert for it sadly have to travel 500km to get to one -_-

[talesofthesevenseas]

I think what you have here is actually a Bedouin prayer box. These are all individually made, so they will look different from one another, but I'll post a couple of similar examples. The owner  puts a prayer on a piece of paper inside the box and carries it with her. These also come in a cylindrical shape and often on those the prayer is sealed inside so that it can't be opened.

[demien88]

I also thought in begining that was somthing like that but nah real shame. They told me at museum
it is Turcish gunpowder box that was worn on belt. I noticed bell thingy on last pic I have somthing looking same as
that bell but it got all black or simply rusted have to check it out

[KC]

Nice find Talesof!!!

[talesofthesevenseas]

Ah, I must have missed that part of the post!

[MarySmith]

I'd be surprised if it was that old. This type of ' artefact ' is quite common in UK auction rooms and it's generally 20th century. A simple, more naive design doesn't mean it's older.

Maybe the box is older but with a newer belt ?

Just butting in but I did notice UK prices versus US prices on many vintage items can be very different. I noticed an Art deco vase that sells on Ebay for a few dollars in the UK might sell for much much more in the the USA. I love old British Airways Concorde collectables  but here in the US the prices are sky high for even just a key fob. BA SST things are very cheap over in the UK :-(

[bigwull]

How right you are for Concorde memoravbilia prices in the UK...just 2 months ago at our local auction house  in Montrose,they had a model of the first Concorde..it came from a travel agent that went bust...it was 4ft long ...and it sold for a measly £60 ....there was also a box of odds & sods, that went with it,...

[demien88]

I'd be surprised if it was that old. This type of ' artefact ' is quite common in UK auction rooms and it's generally 20th century. A simple, more naive design doesn't mean it's older.

Maybe the box is older but with a newer belt ?

Just butting in but I did notice UK prices versus US prices on many vintage items can be very different. I noticed an Art deco vase that sells on Ebay for a few dollars in the UK might sell for much much more in the the USA. I love old British Airways Concorde collectables  but here in the US the prices are sky high for even just a key fob. BA SST things are very cheap over in the UK :-(

Thats why I wanted to check this item completley will be going to another town in few days to indetify rock, museum wanted to buy it I dont think thats for nothing

[mart]

I'd be surprised if it was that old. This type of ' artefact ' is quite common in UK auction rooms and it's generally 20th century. A simple, more naive design doesn't mean it's older.

Maybe the box is older but with a newer belt ?

Just butting in but I did notice UK prices versus US prices on many vintage items can be very different. I noticed an Art deco vase that sells on Ebay for a few dollars in the UK might sell for much much more in the the USA. I love old British Airways Concorde collectables  but here in the US the prices are sky high for even just a key fob. BA SST things are very cheap over in the UK :-(

Indeed things are cheaper in the UK !!  Wait till you see Wullies woodshed,,before he fills it !!

[KC]

Yeah, Wullie uses antiques/vintage items to heat his home (firewood literally) that we drool over here in the US!!!