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ANTIQUE Chinese
« on: December 09, 2013, 02:53:17 pm »
there is some new items on the action soon, here some of them
small jade figurine shaped like a wild boar, usually made to accompany the dead to the next world, Han dinasty, first or second cent. Ac

how much do you think i will be able to sell it on ebay?

thanks

P.S as i told there is more items but i will start with this 1 cuz i think this is the most rare.

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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 04:47:07 pm »
My personal opinion is that this is a later reproduction of a Shang Dynasty jade water buffalo, not Han.

Look at this one and note the similar " Greek Key " style decoration to the body. Differences in carving styles of the body though.

http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/works-of-art/1976.297.2

Looks like it has some age to it. How much are they asking ?

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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 03:12:22 am »
hi Ipcress thanks for answer.

well they asking 295$

here 1 item with similar " Greek Key " style decoration to the body

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hetian-jade-carving-belt-buckle-from-Han-dynasty-/111227480682?pt=Asian_Antiques&hash=item19e5acaa6a&nma=true&si=SSYwWW%252FyZA54G%252F98%252B4K%252BAAhy2aQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

but i think you correct.

well i have been told by the action house that the item has been calcified/Classification (not sure how to say it  :) )
so for the price they askin do you think should i go for it? 

thanks a lot.

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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 05:25:37 am »
If you are thinking of selling this for profit on Ebay then i would not buy it at this price.
The stone used isn't the most desirable and the risk / reward not great enough.

But that's only my opinion


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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 09:02:57 am »
I would listen to Ipcress advice !! At the moment Chinese artifacts/art is not at its best !!

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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 09:15:39 am »
I would listen to Ipcress advice !! At the moment Chinese artifacts/art is not at its best !!

And I just read about the Canadian auction house that sold a Chinese charger last week. It had a pre-sale estimate of less than $1000...and sold for a million! :o

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 09:26:45 am »
There had to be something pretty special about that one!
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 09:59:02 am »
I would listen to Ipcress advice !! At the moment Chinese artifacts/art is not at its best !!

And I just read about the Canadian auction house that sold a Chinese charger last week. It had a pre-sale estimate of less than $1000...and sold for a million! :o

Came from the wife of a former MP. Quite possibly a gift from someone prestigious and sometimes the provenance can influence value like nothing else, as i'm sure you know. Hang a £400 painting in the Oval Office during a presidency and you can add two or three zeros to the total.

Beautiful charger with a weird estimate.

The Oriental market is still strong but the subsequent influx of fakes or modern copies has destabilised the market for some items. Certainly worth browsing Ebay for some miscatalogued items.

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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2013, 10:06:38 am »
Has not been too good here from what I see !! But I am talking about the average items on the market,, not the fine antiques that command high prices !!

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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2013, 12:40:27 pm »
hi, here 1 more item: Biton, Chinese brush pot, porcelain with blue illustrations of a phoenix bird, with the signature of Emperor Kang Xi (17th century), Chinese copy from the 18th or 19 th

asking price 1200$.

what do you think is worth? maybe half milion?  :D

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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2013, 02:57:50 pm »
Looks like a more recent copy of a Kangxi brushpot, not 18th or 19th century

Decoration is slightly wrong ( has someone had a Greek Key / C scroll fit again ?! ) and the base looks poor. The base image is the wrong way up but when looked at properly the top left character mark ( bottom right as you look at the photo as it appears on the forum )  is poor.
Paste and glaze also look later. Maybe early 20th at a push.

There is a similar style fake on Ebay at the moment. No buyer at $165.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19th-qing-emperor-kangxi-bat-stripes-of-blue-and-white-porcelain-brush-pot-/171168992918?pt=Asian_Antiques&hash=item27da778e96&nma=true&si=9M6OjcDdM%252BvQiPv%252F2iYV3xQ1NgQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Can you see, in the top image inside the listing, where that Greek key / C Scroll border goes wrong round the base ?!
Similar mark including the poor top left character. Similar pitted base.

I'd say value more $80-120 than $1200 !!


Same seller, same border, same mark

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19th-Qing-emperor-kangxi-blue-and-white-porcelain-brush-pot-/181250347015?pt=Asian_Antiques&hash=item2a335cd007&nma=true&si=9M6OjcDdM%252BvQiPv%252F2iYV3xQ1NgQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 03:00:52 am »
omg this probable the reason why no one has been bid on it.

thanks so much for ur great answers.

you have a good eyes.  :)

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Re: ANTIQUE Chinese
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 10:01:31 am »
It pays to google search whatever you think about buying !!

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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 12:10:42 pm »
YEp mart.
i glad i have you guys here.

Thanks.

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