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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2014, 06:25:46 pm »
Wien I believe is Vienna !! Why didn`t you show that before ??  Is anything else written anywhere ??
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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2014, 09:18:42 pm »
I didn't show it before because I didn't know I had it on the other cups in my basement.  I assumed they were all the same.  But I went to get them this afternoon and found 8 more cups and the 2 plum/purple mini jar with gold handle as I noted in previous post.  What does Vienna mean to you?

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2014, 09:28:17 pm »
I just weighed them.  They vary between 43 to 68 grams each and the 2 plum mini jugs each weigh 100/101 grams (between 0.24 to 0.37 oz.). So they are hand blown.
They are interesting when you look into them in the  light.  They look transparent in the light but they are gold when seen on a table.

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 06:31:42 am »
  Great idea about the spittoon ...........  Oh dear, do I dare share this with her ~

"Oh dear," ........ what?

Nothing wrong with "spittoons", ....... cause I'd like to have 8 like these, to wit:

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These two ladies' spittoons, about 3 inches across, sold at the 2004 International Carnival Glass Association convention auction. The white one sold for $6,500; the marigold for $6,250.

In 2010, two more spittoons sold; a honey amber for $2,300 and a white for $4,000. In 2011, a white example brought $3,000. In 2012, two in honey amber sold for $2,150 and $2,500; a white example for $3,300. In 2013, one in honey amber brought $2,100. http://www.ddoty.com/cosmoscane.html

From "Spittoons & Cuspidors" link:  http://www.ddoty.com/shapes.html

Here is a "nut bowl" that one can get their fingers in.  ;D

http://www.rubylane.com/item/285513-122005479/Whimsey-Ruffled-Marigold-Carnival-Glass

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2014, 08:11:57 pm »
Hey cogar, ladies used "cuspidors" men used spittoons!  :)

And yes this is the shape of one...but they are very small compared to the average size of a cuspidor AND you didn't see them sold in sets like this (unless maybe for a ladies club!  LOL)
I'm from the South - but please don't mistake my Southern Manners/Accent/Charm as a weakness!

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2014, 08:49:58 pm »
If Vienna at least you know they are made in Austria !! Can at least look in the right country !!

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2014, 08:02:54 am »
Hey cogar, ladies used "cuspidors" men used spittoons!  :)

 AND you didn't see them sold in sets like this (unless maybe for a ladies club!  LOL)

Uh, ... uh, .... KC, ....... how many would ya like to purchase?  ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2014, 08:55:05 am »
Yeah !!  We wish !!

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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2014, 06:15:01 pm »
HA, .... da Devil made me do dat, .....justa be funnin KC,

Anyway, that old Baltimore warehouse Distributor's Catalog is one of the better "books on antique" that we have. Violet salvaged it out of the attic of an old General Store.

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2014, 07:06:01 pm »
Is the date on that page you posted Jan 1908 ??  I would be happy with any of those "bargain day" specials !!

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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2014, 02:34:52 am »
cogar I'm with Mart if those prices are still good!  LOL  :)

They made some mighty fancy cuspidors/spittoons - especially during the tuberculosis outbreaks/threat!  The pocket sized ones made for that time are worth a good penny!!!  Cuspidors were also used at tables when you ate items that may have pits or seeds - not always for the spit or chew!

I still just don't believe these were used for cuspidors/spittoons...just are made in the "shape" of the typical spittoon...and is a bud vase/dish.
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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2014, 05:21:59 am »
I agree, KC, me thinks they are far to fancy and delicate to be used as tableware that would have to be washed and dried after every time used.


Mart, ..... yes, the date is 1908.

It came out of an old GS "up in the country" where Violet grew up and was owned by two (2) never-married brothers named Krafft.

Violet often recounts some of the times she had to "walk-over-the-hill" to get something from the store.

Those catalogs were mailed to the retail stores and the propietor would order his/her merchandice from them which would be shipped via RR and/or horse drawn wagon.

Before the Rail Roads were built to haul timber, coal and coke out it was a chore to get anywhere in western Virginia other than by flat-boat or paddle wheeler.

Lincoln didn't "force" western Virginia into seceding from Virginia because it sided with the North during the Civil War. It was because Lincoln wanted control of "the Rail Road to the Ohio River" .... cause without it he would have lost the War. 

And thus, Lincoln violated the COTUS and got what he wanted.

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2014, 07:53:02 am »
Hello,
I thought I would write back to say I resolved the "nut cup" question.  I was on a board for glass collectors from the UK.  I figured if I couldn't find any information then I need to try a shot across the pond!  It appears these little pretties are simply souvenir cups and still made today.  Basically what I have learned is this:
They are probably Bohemian made, with a technique used called "raised enamel and gold" (if they were Italian made they would be turbo furoco), the gold is probably 24k (she said almost always gold building is 24k), each layer would have required an annealing round (to heat up and cool slowly process), the producer over the years has been Egermann and the responder to my question said he would not be surprised if it was Egermann manufactured.  Similar items have been around since 1880's.  Unfortunately, in collectors terms they are not considered valuable.

That last part he did not expound on so I have no idea on a price point.   Anyone have any thoughts on a price?  I have one on my website, RefreshedForYou.  They are very lovely when they are all polished and displayed.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2014, 07:48:55 pm »
Very smart to think about doing that !! I am just glad you now know what they are !! Souvenir cups,,,guess that's why they are marked on the side,,although I did not even think about souvenirs !! Did you ask about the amethyst ones ??
My personal thought would be $7.50 to $12.50 each on the small "nut" cups !! Depending on who is shopping !!

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Re: Moser Cranberry "nut cup" pinkish color, gold, and enamel
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2014, 01:20:21 pm »
The amethyst one was what tipped off the lady from the UK.  Because of its size, and yes the name on the side was the other tip.  I would imagine they see a lot more of these than we do being so close to tourist industry and Bohemian country side.  The price you picked is exactly what I chose to go for.  I give discounts on my website for multiple purchases so hopefully the will sell.

That was a very invigorating experience!!

Cheers!