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icedgold10

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Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« on: February 23, 2014, 02:58:56 pm »
I bought this but not overly sure what it is.  Has anyone ever seen one of these before?
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2014, 03:54:34 pm »
I sent pics to a pre-Columbian expert he says it's around 200 years old.  But I'm not sure of origin?????
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2014, 03:57:01 pm »
How can he date it without knowing an approximate origin ?
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2014, 03:59:43 pm »
He specializes in pottery pre Columbian.  Maybe he knows it's origin??  Although, it's hitting me as Asian.  Your thoughts?
His name is Edgar Owens he has a site on the web.
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2014, 04:27:05 pm »
Im had one years ago that looked very similar but was Mexican or South American,, good size pot but was just a vase,, made to look like older water jugs !!
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2014, 04:56:03 pm »
It looks very similar to a Caddoan Seed Jar but the flat bottom would rule out an authentic one I would think. I have seen many and none have that.
http://www.nmai.si.edu/searchcollections/item.aspx?irn=6955&objtype=Containers%20and%20Vessels&objid=Seed%20jar
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2014, 06:46:06 pm »
How big are we talking ? Like, holding with two hands ?
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2014, 06:48:16 pm »
It's 6 1/4" tall  and 6 1/2" wide
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 08:29:16 pm »
Mine was much larger !!  You are talking southern Caddo culture IlliniGuy ??
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2014, 08:37:33 pm »
Yes Mart. Specifically Arkansas. I know the Caddo had a presence in your area of Texas so I can only assume the ceramics are similar.
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2014, 08:52:01 pm »
Ray did you read the tag with that jar,, it said water jar !! And to me it is typically a water jug/jar !! What was written on the right said seed which does not fit the form of this jar at all !! Click on it and read it !!
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 09:26:34 pm »
I did read that Mart. It is still a seed jar or at least that is what they are called. Here is another link that may explain it better. http://www.jimmausartifacts.com/unique-caddo-seed-jar/
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 09:38:10 pm »
This is a Caddoan Water bottle  for Clark Co., Arkansas. It is a Hodges Engraved circa 1400 to 1500 A.D. and is in my collection.]
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2014, 05:38:45 am »
I would think that a small (> 4" D) water jar/jug would have some means of lifting/holding it with one hand, either a handle or a long neck. ???
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Re: Old hand made clay vase/pot?
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2014, 10:43:40 am »
I just got an email reply from an auction house.  It is Native American.
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