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Silver plate? Value? Any info?
« on: March 13, 2014, 11:17:49 pm »
Hey guys, I haven't been on in a while and am excited to get back in to the grove of finding cool crap. I recently got a ton of silver plate for very little $$ and out of all of them this one stuck out to me. It is marked twice with English Silver MFG Corp and Black Starr & Gorham. It is heavier and feels better than the other silver plate I own. Any infor would be great and maybe a value. I have looked around but am falling short with research.
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Re: Silver plate? Value? Any info?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2014, 11:19:35 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2014, 11:25:05 pm »
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Re: Silver plate? Value? Any info?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 01:29:30 am »
Can you please post the dimensions of the pieces?

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Re: Silver plate? Value? Any info?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2014, 06:32:00 am »
Sure can. It is about 11" X 8.5"
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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2014, 08:39:53 am »
English Silver Manufacturing Corp is the actual maker of the piece whereas Black Starr (Frost ) & Gorham were the distributors of the silver items.

English Silver was founded in 1952 - 1990 with the mark you have on yours
http://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.com/SPMfgs/SPE1.html

Black Starr & Gorham operated from 1940 - 1962...thus gives your pieces a window of 1952 - 1962!

From the size of it it could be a cheese or butter server.  How tall is it?  Seems too small for a vegetable server or meat plate.  There used to be servers for everything.  So, lets figure this one out!


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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2014, 09:16:30 am »
here is a picture with a bottle of wine inside it for a little bit of sizing. Great response by the way.
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« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2014, 09:32:23 am »
11 in would be too large for butter but a great size for a cheese server !! May have had a wooden cutting board with it that fit inside !!
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2014, 10:20:59 am »
Yeah I'm thinking more along the lines of cheese or something larger than butter. Anyone have a ball park value. And does the fact that Black Starr & Gorham distibuted it make it better?
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2014, 11:38:06 am »
Are there hallmarks on the piece ??  Black Starr & Gorham were jewelers,,normally they don`t handle plated silver !!  Silverplate was a lower end product usually sold by local retailers !!
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2014, 11:51:18 am »
Quote from: mart on March 14, 2014, 11:38:06 am
Are there hallmarks on the piece ??  Black Starr & Gorham were jewelers,,normally they don`t handle plated silver !!  Silverplate was a lower end product usually sold by local retailers !!

And the plot thickens.. There is a stamp that literally looks like this on the piece "BLACK STARR & GORHAM" on the piece. It is in a different place than the English Silver MFG Corp stamp though.
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« Reply #11 on: March 14, 2014, 01:58:22 pm »
I was just reading about Black, Starr & frost and how they became and merged with Gorham. I am not 100% that it is silver plate but I am almost sure without testing it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 14, 2014, 04:03:20 pm »
Looks like good quality silver plate.
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« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2014, 04:06:01 pm »
Yeah that's what I was thinking but I can not figure out a range of value for the life of me.
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Re: Silver plate? Value? Any info?
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2014, 06:26:40 pm »
BS&G distributed the piece and it was made by English Silver Mfg Co.

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