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Louis XV or NOT? That is the question. :)
« on: July 27, 2014, 09:22:40 am »
I have 2 pieces that I received conflicting reports on. I have been searching everywhere to try to identify a chair and a table that I just came across. From my best guess, I would say the chair is a Louis XV Vanity Chair, and the table a Louis XV music cabinet. One resource said they were not period pieces and that the chair may even be an antique Italian replica. Another resource agreed with my own assessment of the pieces.

I have my doubts about what I came up with on the chair because in all of my research I haven't come across any Louis XV pieces with the lattice style carving in the design similar to what the upper right section of the chair has in it.

The problem I have with the music table is it seems much smaller in size than the examples I have found on the web, as well as it is not enclosed except for the drawer.

Any advice or value would be appreciated! Thanks  :)

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 01:00:08 pm »
Can you take the drawer out  of the stand and take a pic of the dovetails on the sides and one of the underside of the chair please ?? When you say conflicting opinions, were these done by a hands on visual or did you just email pics to someone online ??

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 04:24:54 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:08:38 am »

i would, in addition to Marts request, like to see the underside of the stand. From here the chair looks like what was marketed as French Provincial furniture in the 70s. The finish looks purposefully distressed.

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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 08:27:17 am »
Kind of my feeling too Frogpatch !!,, Many people don`t realize that the French Rococo, Louis styles were made back then !! We were swamped with French Provencial furniture !! Just looking at the piece tells little,, we need to see how its made as well as how the wood is aged !! 

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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 11:23:12 am »
Here's my 2cents worth.  The top chair appears to be "in the design of" French Rococo style with a carved acanthus shaped cartouche.  I personally cannot tell if it is original or a reproduction from a picture on this one.  It is an ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL chair irregardless.  If you were in my neck of the woods it would sell easily!

The STAND appears to be from very latest 1800's to early 1900's.  Very simple in design.  Not a cabinet (not enclosed with a door).  Looks more English or American made than French.  Would like to see pictures of the underside and side of drawer.  This could have been used for music but it could have also been used for magazines, etc.  The time period you are referring to, the French have finely made music CABINETS, enclosed
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 01:52:51 pm »
I agree on the music stand KC !!  Does not show French styling and I am guessing its English !! That is about the time period I think as well but can`t tell any more without additional pics !!

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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 08:21:50 am »
I'll have to take more photos. Here's the joints on the table.

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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 08:28:14 am »
*NOTE TO ADMIN

I'm having issues with uploading/posting. Last reply I tried I got a 502 error page. I have no issues on any other sites I use. I'm running Firefox 30.0 on a Macbook Pro running OS X 10.9.4. UGH!

*Update - It only happens when I'm uploading images. These images are much smaller than the requirements allow.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 08:48:29 am »

i run into that issue too. Or it takes so long I run out of patience.


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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 10:26:21 am »
Thanks for the information, will pass it on to Ed about the pictures.
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 10:33:53 am »
The size you used last was perfect !!  That allows us to enlarge with no problems,,at least for me !! We can see detail perfectly with this pic !!  Now to the stand,, I was surprised because the dovetailing is closer to what we see on American furniture than the English pieces !! Where are you located in the world ??  NE states by chance ??  Its pretty typical of that area !!

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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 10:43:08 am »
TNJChris, I passed the information on to the administrator and hopefully he will have some resolution soon!  Thanks for the notification!
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 11:14:23 am »
The size you used last was perfect !!  That allows us to enlarge with no problems,,at least for me !! We can see detail perfectly with this pic !!  Now to the stand,, I was surprised because the dovetailing is closer to what we see on American furniture than the English pieces !! Where are you located in the world ??  NE states by chance ??  Its pretty typical of that area !!

I'm in NY. Does that help determine it's origin and function? Long Island to be more specific.
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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 11:26:15 am »
Can you take the drawer out  of the stand and take a pic of the dovetails on the sides and one of the underside of the chair please ?? When you say conflicting opinions, were these done by a hands on visual or did you just email pics to someone online ??

The reports, were through email from a couple of dealers that are known for that period.