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featherbird

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Welsh plate rack
« on: December 11, 2014, 07:36:33 pm »
Any thought on the value, origin or year of this Welsh plate rack?
I can't find a stamp, nor date, nor signature on the piece.
Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
With thanks,
FB

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2014, 08:34:09 pm »
Can you take a pic of the dovetail joints on one of the drawers please ??  Looks to be a nice welsh cupboard !!

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2014, 10:10:33 pm »
Hi and welcome to the forum.  Nice looking piece.

Can you also please post pictures of 1)the back side of this and 2) the inside with the drawers removed (as well as the side of a drawer like Mart asked for)?  Thanks!
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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2014, 08:10:55 am »
Thank you kindly for your comments and for your welcome.
I am attaching 4 more photos to this response.
A photo of the back of the piece, a photo of the dovetail work in the drawers, a photo of the inside of the drawer with drawer pulled out.
Thank you again for sharing your time - I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

With thanks,
FB

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2014, 09:05:58 am »
Welsh Dresser, quarter sawn oak construction, guesses late victorian era because of the feet. Linked is what these forms have sold for
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/search?q=welsh+dresser&by_date=2014-12-12T15:08:55.020Z&sort=relevance&dtype=gallery&hasimage=true&type=complete&rows=20
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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2014, 09:20:19 am »
Thank you for your feedback and comments.
Much appreciated.

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2014, 10:16:46 am »
The drawers have chippendale pulls but the arched aprons at bottom & top plus the feet are not chippendale at all, which leads me to victorian! lol, who were very fond of having 2 or 3 design features in the same piece.

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2014, 10:53:11 am »
Thank you again for your feedback.  Much appreciated.

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2014, 11:07:04 am »
Naturally, i could be wrong on this as this period/form is quite a ways out of my field of interest. Wonders where everyone is today and why they are not posting! EARTH TO MARTHA! come in dear, are you there?

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2014, 11:17:35 am »
Oh I am here Jacon4 !!  Drooling again !!  Early 1800`s ??  Would you agree Jacon4 !!  May I ask where you are located with this cupboard ??

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2014, 11:19:26 am »
No, I dont think that early, closer to 1900, those arched aprons have craftsman style written all over them

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2014, 11:21:45 am »
I am located in the Blue Mountains, Ontario

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2014, 11:25:43 am »
This piece does have hand cut dovetails however, if the Limey's  i interact with about old furniture are correct, in England furniture was still built by hand until the 1930's, nearly a century after america converted to building furniture with steam powered machines.

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2014, 03:31:52 pm »
No, I dont think that early, closer to 1900, those arched aprons have craftsman style written all over them

That's true and sure could be later but when I look at all the elements I get a feeling is an earlier primitive !! Not a "factory" piece !! I can see it with pewter dishes in the racks !!

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Re: Welsh plate rack
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2014, 03:54:56 pm »
Jacon4, I bet you could hear me laugh out loud when I read "Earth to Martha".  Oh my goodness...nearly lost my breath!

I just got the impression that this Welsh Dresser with Plate Rack was late 1800's, Victorian mix of styles.  Interesting that it doesn't have a pot board (bottom shelf below drawers) that is found on so many of this time.  However, from the appearances, this was designed as a beautiful piece of furniture for display and not the utilitarian one that was originally designed for hard kitchen work!
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