Identifying a couch and chair with same carvings

[RHR]

I am having a hard time determining what style and year this couch and chair is. There are no markings and I have spend countless hours searching the carving detail online.
The only thing I know about these items is that the owner was born in 1885-1897 and these items (along with a few other pieces of furniture with the same detail) was brought into a second marriage.
The carvings remind me of a Chippendale style.
Any help is greatly appreciated

[mart]

Hi there and welcome to the forum !!
Does the sofa have a slight curve to the back ??  Can`t see it well with the spreads or pillows on it !!   Pretty sure your sofa is from what I call the second revival of the Chippendale style in the late 1930`s through the 40`s !!   Although there is a small possibility it could have been made slightly earlier !!  There were some fine reproductions made in the Chippendale style in the first half of the 1800`s but this does not look like one of those !! Cabriole legs are too straight,,should have more curve at the knee, no hand carving that I could see and all should be in the camel back style !! Straight backed sofas or those with a slight curve were a later design !!

[RHR]

Thanks so much for the info and for welcoming me. I will include a few more pictures. The couch does have a slight curve, like a camel back. I upload a full picture of the chair. Do you think they are the same style and era? What would something like this sell for?
I also included another picture of a settee I believe to be Rococo. I am just learning about furniture and ive looked at so many online. its becoming a blur. LOL
Thanks again for all your help

[mart]

For some reason I can`t get the chair pic to enlarge but other than the mismatched upholstery ( must have used the chair in a bedroom) sure looks like a set !! You did say the carving was the same ?? Was that your plan,, to sell them ??  Would not bring a lot as-is !! The upholstery is not in good condition and is not original !! I do not think that the cushion is original !! Would more likely have had two or three separate cushions if I am seeing right, depending on length !!  The wood could be polished up so that's no biggie !!  How is it structurally ?? Springs broken or any thing ??

[mart]

Excellent that you are learning about furniture !!  As to the little settee, it is commonly called a triple hump Victorian settee from about 1890 to 1910 give or take a few years either way !! Looks nice and with correct upholstery !! Can`t see anything else !! One little tip for your learning experience,, when taking pics for evaluation,, remove anything that doesn`t belong there, and remember that every piece is important in determining the origin, date and possible value !! With furniture the feet, legs, carving, upholstery, style and construction are the things we need to see !! As you go along you will see how each of these,,(as well as many more) are important in determining possible value of your items !!

[RHR]

I appreciate all of your advice. We came across a house full of antiques where the owner, who is in his 80's, asked us to determine if any of his belongings, which most of them belonged to his mother, were of any value. I was unable to take decent pictures due to the amount of items stacked in every room. These 3 pieces actually sit in what he refers to as The Parlor.
I'm pretty sure the carvings are the same on the burgundy couch and the peach chair. The settee has leaves and grapes on the back. It does not match the other 2 pieces.
The burgundy couch does have a broken spring on the left side.
If these items could be repaired, could they bring a profit.
As I said, the owner would like to sell some items in order to keep his home, which was built in the 1850s and belonged to his mother.
Would there be a mark anywhere on any of these pieces to determine the maker?
Thanks again for all your help.

[RHR]

I have added another picture of the peach chair. I hope this one comes up a little larger. Thanks

[mart]

Yes, that is a much better pic !!  The carving is the same so its a set !!  Also could see the carving better !! It has flamingo heads in the pattern !! So checked around and found a chair with similar flamingo heads !!  They dated it from 1910 but without a hands on look, lets say yours is between 1910 and 1930 !! Personally I think its more toward the 1930 but no real way to know !!  A 20 year time difference is about average for furniture !!
No, the settee is of a different style,,I would not expect it to match !! But it looks to be in pretty good condition !!
How are you planning on selling these pieces ??

[RHR]

Flamingos??? I knew it was some kind of bird so I searched and searched. Never would I have guessed flamingos. LOL. Thanks. I am not really sure how to sell these pieces because I haven't dealt much with big furniture. Just smaller items. I would like to keep the settee for myself but still want to offer a fair price. What are your thoughts?
I have so many items to ask questions about bc he has so many things in this house that I have never seen. Glass, china, furniture, paintings, rugs, quilts, etc... Sadly, he hasn't taken very good care of them and they have deteriorated a bit since his mother passed in 2002.

[mart]

For the settee,, if it is in as good condition as it looks,,and depending on where you are,, $300. to $350. would be what I would expect it to bring !!  But,, Victorian furniture is not a hot seller in many areas of the country !!
You might consider posting some of the smaller items here,,sometimes they can be worth quite a bit and easier to sell !!

[RHR]

Thanks again, Mart. You have been very helpful. I am in Southern PA.
Are you familiar with Duncan Miller glass? He has a few items that he says is DM, but I'm not sure he is correct.
Fenton pieces look quite similar and Im thinking that that is more of a possibility.
Also, while looking through my pictures, I noticed a console table with the same flamingo pattern. It is sitting in a different room. So far, that set now contains 3 pieces. Any thoughts on price if sold together?

[mart]

Lets get pics of the console table first !!  I am in Texas so prices here may not reflect your area although I try to be current on most furniture of this era and what they usually sell for !!  We have other members that I want to get opinions from before giving a price that may or may not be accurate for your location !!  The more heads we have chiming in the more likely we are to get it right for you !!

Glass is not my main area but we have others who are expert on many forms of glassware !!

[RHR]

Well, as you probably know, my pictures are not that good of the table. I do not have a really good picture of it because so many things were piled on top and around it but I do have a nice picture of the detail which I have attached.
Please excuse the cobwebs in the picture (they are not mine) 

[mart]

LOL !! An old house with old furniture would not be complete without cobwebs !!  Here is another little tip for you !! Before you list the furniture buy a bottle of Old English Dark oil for that wood !! It will shine it up like new and hide the small scratches !! Just be careful not to get it on the upholstery !! !! Cover it well but don`t drown it, then wipe off any excess !!  If you will do that it may add a few dollars to the sale price !!

[RHR]

I actually do have some of that but felt odd asking the owner if I could clean it off and wipe it down. LOL. I wanted to get some quick pictures so I could look things up while we determined a date to pick everything up.
Thanks again for your help. I'm glad I joined this forum. Very helpful