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Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« on: January 17, 2015, 08:13:49 pm »
Its made by Franziska Hirsch with markings on the bottom of S & G Gump Co. San Francisco and dresden. The H with wings is her marking. I just don't have a clue of what it is. It measures 5 1/8"    on top 6 1/2" diameter on bottom, and is 2" in height. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2015, 08:28:41 pm »
Thought I attached all the photos...oops

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2015, 08:30:09 pm »
More pics

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2015, 08:31:29 pm »
Pic without perforated plate

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2015, 08:47:36 pm »
If I were to guess,, I would say it was for tea bags after they are removed from the cup !!  But something tells me that's not it !!  Something is rattling around in my brain but just can`t place it !!  Someone here will know !!

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2015, 07:26:39 pm »
I am bumping this up so KC and the others will take a look tomorrow !!

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 08:12:10 pm »
Thank you

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2015, 11:14:33 pm »
Small berry bowl with under plate.  They had drain holes so any water left on berries/fruit could drain, be exposed to air to dry and thus have less spoilage!
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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2015, 05:28:11 am »
Awesome...thanks so much. Makes sense.

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2015, 08:49:52 am »
Very beautiful piece!  You don't see them very often with handles.  :) 
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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2015, 09:47:09 am »
Two comments:

- the item was not made by Hirsch, merely (re)decorated.
- impressed DPV mark, hence item produced earlier than mid-1908.

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2015, 02:36:27 pm »
Thanks a million Chris!  Had no idea on maker but knew what the item was/used for!  :)  Always a pleasure to get your help!
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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2015, 07:20:43 am »
I didn't even see thev DPV till now....need my eyes checked. I googled DPV, but didn't see anything. sorry, I just started buying antiques.

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2015, 08:10:41 am »
Even though pottery and porcelain is not my area,,I would say you did well on this purchase if price was reasonable !!

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Re: Need help identifying a Franziska Hirsch porcelain piece
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2015, 08:46:18 am »
Should have added this earlier but was on my way to the hospital; here the missing addition:

The so-called "DPV" mark (as most people read it that way) actually is a "VDP" and stands for the (hold tight!) "Vereinigung deutscher Porzellan-Fabrikanten zur Hebung der Porzellan-Industrie GmbH", a commercial union of German porcelain manufacturers, representing around 77 different companies. Its main job was the active promotion of German porcelain sales in Austria, Switzerland, the four German colonies in Africa, and other areas of interest (except already covered areas like the UK, Canada and the USA).

Shown DPV mark was registered on October 15th 1908 as Reichswarenzeichenr egister (RWZR) #111474; the business itself already disbanded four years later (hence shown DPV mark was only used 1908-1912).