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hobi12

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painting found
« on: January 26, 2015, 11:10:27 am »
hi

again i found this in my gramps loft any help on the artist and rough time it was done

many thanks

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Re: painting found
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 11:14:54 am »
sorry had to break it into 2 scanned it as pic didnt really show it

also added the signature

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Re: painting found
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 05:13:00 pm »
Hi there and welcome to the group !!  Can you tell me where geographically you are located ??

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Re: painting found
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 06:08:38 pm »
Hi

I'm in Manchester in the UK

Can't find anybody who signs the name with the intials on this painting

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Re: painting found
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 06:11:21 pm »
The reason it's 2 shades was when I put it through Photoshop it is dirty and in need of a clean it's a beautiful painting so am going to get it done professionally then get it reframed

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Re: painting found
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 06:41:06 pm »
Are those initials DAW ??  Can we see the back of the canvas ??   Here is the problem,, as  a rule artists do not use initials only !! Only hobbyists do that !! A person who intends to make money at art needs name recognition !!  Without a name on their work no one knows who painted the picture !! How many people in the UK have those same initials ??  See what I mean,, how would you ask a gallery about it ??   Its the name that starts a career not initials !!

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Re: painting found
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 03:31:19 am »
hi mart

thank you it makes sense what you say

as requested the back of the painting

it says prepared by winsor & newton 39 rathbone place london

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Re: painting found
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 04:20:18 am »
windsor and newton began at number 38 in 1833 and took over number 39 in 1860. not much help in identifying the artist and they were a very large supplier.

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Re: painting found
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 04:39:01 am »
done a bit of research for you mate, i believe the artist is d h winder, late 19th early 20th century. if you google him you will find examples of his work, the hand looks the same to me, (i'm an artist and collector (of many things!)) they usually sell for a few hundred £s...

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Re: painting found
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 07:15:40 am »
That middle letter may be an H rather than an A as I thought !!  The time period would be correct,, the painting is similar io what is known here as the Hudson River School of artists !!   Was it his habit of signing with initials only,, I am not that familiar with UK artists ??

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Re: painting found
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2015, 07:28:14 am »
it needs a clean so will now get this done professionally lol thank you for your help

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Re: painting found
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2015, 12:44:35 pm »
https://www.google.com/search?q=artist,+DH+Winder&biw=1280&bih=596&tbm=isch&imgil=TJ-mZMJmL2YG-M%253A%253B_pgMh9F077PN2M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.artnet.com%25252Fartists%25252Fd-h-winder%25252Fpast-auction-results&source=iu&pf=m&fir=TJ-mZMJmL2YG-M%253A%252C_pgMh9F077PN2M%252C_&usg=__RgK-hC1foF0ZUwXsePhhXq5PsvY%3D

If you haven`t done it yet,, here are examples of his work !! I agree with AWT that it is the same style and feel !! Look and see if you can find an example of his signature and check the writing !!  Even if signed with full or partial name letters are usually similar !!
There are occasions where an artist will go through different writing styles until they hit on one they like and are comfortable with !!

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Re: painting found
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2015, 03:17:49 pm »
thank you all for the insight tried to find other examples of a signature which i couldnt

were is the best place to take it to get it looked at and do you think its worth getting it restored and cleaned the paint itself is in good condition just years of dust and dirt

many thanks

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Re: painting found
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2015, 03:50:04 pm »
ive just found this on http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/daniel-h.-winder-1870-c.-1920-,-oil-on-board,-5-1292-c-68ed954c3a that looks very similar to the way he did his initials on the one ive got what do people think

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Re: painting found
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2015, 04:24:27 pm »
cant believe i missed this before

in the wood on the frame this is whats in the wood

cant make out the name of the painting think it says ulswater see what you think