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Help dating these drawers
« on: February 04, 2015, 05:42:40 am »
These drawers were left to my son, we know they are at least 50 years old. Could anyone help, please. Thanks
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2015, 05:45:06 am »
Sorry I am new to this and cannot seem to attach another picture.

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2015, 07:59:02 am »
From what I can discern without a closer look at the interior and drawer joining, I would say it is factory made from around 1880-1900. Appears to be walnut to me. Lets see what the others say.

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2015, 08:22:03 am »
Thanks for the reply. I will try to upload some more pictures.







The dimensions are 48inches width by 48 inches high and 20 inch depth.
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 09:45:21 am »
Eastlake, 1880-1900, i think english made because hand cut dovetails & oak secondary wood

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 11:48:23 am »
I'am surprised Mart is going to allow Jacon to say the bureau is Eastlake. It is English, but not Eastlake. I noticed Insta appraisal squared there act up.but I bet there still cheating.

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2015, 11:55:46 am »
The above chest is classic Eastlake, straight incised lines that are a signature decoration of that period & style.  I would also note that the chest is built by hand, common in England until the 1930s because of the guild system (unions), in America with no guild system, most furniture built after 1850 was machine built with steam power.
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2015, 01:54:14 pm »
Ghopper is a collector of victorian furniture, dont see him here much these days though. Maybe Mart & he will stop & take a look see. I think ghopper stopped coming here because of a poster who was abusive and now banned, forget his name but bottom line is, ghopper doesn't come any more, that's a shame because he knew victorian furniture very well.
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2015, 03:20:23 pm »
Well, thanks Jacon!

Your previous posts are exactly right; I can see there's no need for me around here ha ha. ;D

English: handmade through the 1930s. This dresser is in fact English and from the 1890s. The incised lines are indicative though they may be found on furniture into the 1920s.

And yes, it's walnut. Nice little dresser!
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2015, 03:27:43 pm »
I'am surprised Mart is going to allow Jacon to say the bureau is Eastlake. It is English, but not Eastlake. I noticed Insta appraisal squared there act up.but I bet there still cheating.

Dewain knows me too well !!  You get chests similar to these because of William Morris`influence during that period !! That's why it looks more A&C than Eastlake although you could call it either one and not be wrong !! Just happened to be similar time period !!  The stamp on back is the retailer,,probably not the not the maker !!  A few of these shops made their own furniture but as a rule they just sold items made by other cabinetmakers or had the items made according to their needs !!  Like todays designer shops !!
Whats the deal with Insta-appraisal ??  Haven`t heard anything !!

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« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2015, 03:29:54 pm »
Well, thanks Jacon!

Your previous posts are exactly right; I can see there's no need for me around here ha ha. ;D

English: handmade through the 1930s. This dresser is in fact English and from the 1890s. The incised lines are indicative though they may be found on furniture into the 1920s.

And yes, it's walnut. Nice little dresser!

Well, it about darned time you got back here !!   :D

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2015, 03:40:34 pm »
Thanks for the replies guys, very interesting. So, my son could have a nice contribution to his holiday fund if he sells them then.  There is some water damage(I think) on the top but I assume this could be sorted by the right people.

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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2015, 07:08:27 pm »
Yep English....but not Eastlake.  Feel it is around early 1900's.

Company History shows they weren't at the Union Street location until later into their history
https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2130788192/

The Lower was removed from their address after it took over property they bought from Chamberlain, Poles & Company (show CP&CO was still in location at 1899 and on a notation on the same site above it shows they were there until 1922).
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2015, 03:49:20 am »
LOL, OK, if not Eastlake, what style is it then? edwardian? Whenever i see those straight incised lines in walnut built during the late victorian era, 1880-1900 or so, i think of eastlake. Then there are the pulls, they look late victorian to me. Naturally this period of furniture is way out of my field of interest & it's english built as well (HORROR!), wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of my area of knowledge. Quick google search, "english eastlake dresser", brought this result, thinks they mean 1910 instead of 1810
http://ancientpoint.com/inf/96427-solid_cherry___________english_antique_furniture_eastlake_dresser_commode_______circa_1810.html
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Re: Help dating these drawers
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2015, 04:13:08 am »
Value, in england i have no clue, in america, not much, it would do well if it brought $100-150 USD. Over here antique "brown furniture" in the middle market has been on a bad run the last decade or so, you can buy solid walnut, cherry furniture at auction for less than one pays for sawdust furniture at IKEA.
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