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Need Glassware ID Help
« on: August 12, 2015, 05:23:47 pm »
I'm about to purchase sixteen pieces of the glassware shown below. The seller is assisting a 90-year-old woman in the sale and she says that these belonged to her husband's grandparents, so it has the potential to be quite old. I have not seen it in person but have an appointment to see it on Monday. The seller is not sure if this is molded glass, pressed glass or cut crystal.

Can anyone help me identify this glassware? I'm mostly interested in the age of it, but any information you can help with is much appreciated.



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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2015, 08:11:11 pm »
A few months back I sold a glass cut crystal bowl that had a similar canopy cut that was Circa 1925 and made in England. Geometric patterns I think would have been used a lot during the 1800's and yours looks like it has a flower in it so I think my *guess* would be Circa 1920's, Cut Glass (I think it looks like cut glass in the image). Also, I think if it's cut glass it would likely be lead crystal.
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 06:48:50 am »
I would say pressed glass, ca. 1890. The stylized stick and ball motif, as well as the flower, look like aesthetic movement/Eastlake decorations, which would place them anywhere from the 1880s to ca. 1910. 1890 sounds like a good compromise.
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 07:55:58 am »
what liquid would these have held most?  Kind of the shape of a coke glass? 

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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 11:15:00 am »
Thanks very much, these replies are very helpful. I think I'll be able to tell more when I see them in person on Monday. Pressed glass, molded glass and crystal all have a distinct feel to them and with pressed glass I think that I should see a mold line. My parents had crystal glasses and they had a distinctly "cut" sharply edged feel to them. Here's another picture showing the whole bunch of them. I'm getting the entire lot for $75.
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 11:43:02 am »
The closest I can find to this shape/form is a beer glass "tulip pint". Maybe these were pints and half pints for beer? Water glasses are almost entirely goblets with a foot and stem or they are just a "tumbler". I'm guessing they would have to have held beer, soda or water. Very early soda glasses look similar, but lack the "swell" in the upper part. (see Pepsi image below)  but in that time you had to buy soda at a fountain, it had not been bottled yet.  These look like something for home entertaining. I'm kinda mystified.
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2015, 06:39:46 pm »
Looks like a cool set of glasses , talesof .

Wish I knew more , but that's an old story .

Style looks sorta 1890's thru 1930's to me .

Looks like they have taken a few bumps & had enough usage ... I was thinking a lemonade set , but prob wrong on that .

I don't know if it's the photos or my old eyes , but maybe it would be a fun thing , just for shirts (sp.?) & giggles to bring along a small black light ... just to check for uranium , that is .

They seem to be machine made , except for the etching , which looks like hand-work , to me .

Maybe a message to ironlord might send a clue of 2 your way ?

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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2015, 06:50:43 pm »
I was thinking that IronLord might be a good person to ask. I'll do that.
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2015, 08:30:16 pm »
Pretty sure they are wheel cut and etched !! They would still have a mold line either way !!  There are so many similar patterns to this its hard to find the mfr !!  Daisy and drape, flower and swag,,might be easier to find the pattern rather than its use !! KC might know this one,, Wendy would too but have not heard from her in ages or so it seems !!  My thinking on age is 1890 to 1910 so we are all on the same page there,, within a few years or so !!

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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2015, 11:27:52 pm »
Wish I did know.  They are LOVELY talesofthesevenseas! 

Don't know if your would call these a tumbler, lemonade glass or sundae or parfait glass.  They made so many different styles.

Agree, late 1800's to early 1900's.

Can't tell by these pics about the type of glass but you will know more once you see them.  Most likely pressed and etched.
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2015, 12:13:27 am »
I picked up the glasses tonight. They look very old, you can just tell by the look and feel. I believe they are pressed glass rather than crystal, as they do not have a hand cut feel to them. Especially looking at the base of the glass, where it is rounded and irregular. I posted it with a couple of  familiar  ;) objects so that you could get a sense of the size. The staining on them rubs off, I think it is just from being packed in newspaper. The small size glasses are just a little larger than a shot glass, but they are definitely not a shot glass.

The grandfather (who originally owned the glasses) of the 90-year-old man, ran Hale's Pharmacy in Jackson Ohio. Maybe these are very early soda fountain glasses?
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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2015, 12:43:05 am »
Looking closely at the underside of the base, I think we have a "pontil scar" indicating blown molded glass, right?

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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2015, 05:18:37 am »

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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2015, 07:34:17 am »
Can you take that last pic looking straight on,,do not think its a pontil scar !!

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Re: Need Glassware ID Help
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2015, 10:41:33 am »
Well, on the Ruby Lane amethyst glasses the form is definitely the same, but that's about all the similarity that I can see. They are MUCH thicker and heavier. This is really fine, delicate stuff. I think a person could crush it in their hand.

On the pontil scar, I think what these are are ones where the scar is smoothed over and polished. They definitely have rings on the bases like blown glass examples. I will try to take some photos of it from different angles.
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