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KevinM

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Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« on: March 07, 2016, 07:20:05 pm »
Ok, so yesterday I'm walking through the TS looking around for things and I happen to notice this pair of what looks like old candlesticks. Usually, when I see these type of candlesticks with the brass and patina they turn out to be new and made to look old. But, in this case they actually did look old so I picked them up and went over and sat down on a couch and gave them a closer look with my loop (I never leave home without a jewelers loop).

After examining the candlesticks closer I was sure they were old so I turn them over to look for a maker mark which I found under some dark patina. After a quick thumb rub of the patina I made out a maker mark which I looked at closer with the loop and could make out "Henneberg" "Czajkowski" and "Warszawa". Once I read the maker mark I was certain they were at least late 1800's candlesticks. The price was very reasonable and they were priced separately and way within the range of Mart's *Scream Price* so I went ahead and purchased them along with a couple of other items. The candlesticks measure about 11 1/2" in height and about 4 3/4" in width at the base of the candlestick and look to have been silver plated over brass or bronze.

So I looked them up online and was able to find out they were made by Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski (formally Henneberg & Czajkowski 1856 - 1862) sometime between 1862 and 1872. Michal Czajkowski left the company in 1872 after which time the company was called Bros. Henneberg. I was able to find a lot of candlesticks made after 1872 by Bros. Henneberg but have not been able to find any maker marks which have just "Henneberg & Czajkowski" for any items during the time the company was founded by Juliusz Henneberg and Michal Czajkowski in 1856 to 1862 after which time his brother joined the company. The company name Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski (Bracia Henneberg i Czajkowski in Polish) was active in 1862 when Juliusz Henneberg's brother Wilhelm joined the company until 1872 when Czajkowski left the company.

The other thing is the maker mark these candlesticks have which I cannot find anywhere for any of Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski items or any of their items themselves from 1862 - 1872. Has anyone seen this maker mark somewhere before or heard of them? The mark that I read is "N" "BCIA HENNEBERG i" "CZAJKOWSKI" "WARSZAWA" "GALW:". The N is in a Diamond and the "BCIA" I think is an abbreviation for "Brothers", please correct me if I'm wrong with "BCIA" being an abbreviation. There also looks like there could be a number or something else above "CZAJKWSKI" but I can't make it out. I suspect this may be a rare mark.

Now, if you're still following me on this one, I've seen a lot of references to the Brothers Henneberg later candlesticks referred to as "Sabbath Candlesticks", would this pair of candlesticks also be considered "Sabbath Candlesticks.

Thanks!
Kevin

P.S. You can click on the image to view a larger detailed view of the image (for those who don't already know this).
« Last Edit: March 07, 2016, 10:33:30 pm by KevinM »

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Re: Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2016, 11:38:11 am »
The N is the mark for silver plate.

Here are some very similar which sold for $80

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/13589412_pair-henneberg-warszawa-silver-plated-candlesticks

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Re: Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2016, 03:16:10 pm »
Thanks Ipcress. Yes, I know the N is for silver plate, I just wasn't sure if it was over brass or bronze since Michal Czajkowski was a bronzesmith prior to 1856 when he formed the company with Juliusz Henneberg as Henneberg & Czajkowski.

Although the candlestick you have a link to at liveauctions is similar, that candlestick was made between 1887 and 1894 and made by "B. Henneberg Warsaw" (Brothers Henneberg) and has an eight petal rosette in the center not the maker mark with "Czajkowski" in the center like mine which was used between 1862 and 1872, 15 years prior when Czajkowski last worked at and left the company.

I have not been able to find any actual example images of the maker mark I have for Brothers Henneberg & Czajkowski "N" "BCIA HENNEBERG i" "CZAJKOWSKI" "WARSZAWA" "GALW:" which was used  between 1862 and 1872 anywhere.

Here's a link to another similar one but again it's B.Henneberg Warszaw it's circa 1890 ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Silver-Plated-Shabbat-Candlesticks-B-Henneberg-Warszawa-Poland-c-1890-/111904273337?hash=item1a0e03b3b9%3Ag%3AyikAAOSwwE5WXl3f&nma=true&si=pM8Z%252FN%252B4dQhfAlZN9U%252BA2ZUyu1Q%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


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Re: Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2016, 03:52:57 pm »
In this case it's silver plate on alpacca - like nickel silver.

The slight differences in mark are not really important in this case, in my opinion, although there might be a reference to it on Google books or something. There are also German websites which could be translated into English.

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Re: Antique Sabbath Warsaw Poland Candlesticks?
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2016, 04:23:06 pm »
ok, thanks Ipcress.