New information about an old posting of an unknown EAPG cakestand

[cogar]

The pictures are missing but I believe this is the correct posting that I made on 12-15-12 about an EAPG “cake stand” and which is the same one that the wife just today found out the “maker and date” of.

To wit, the original post:

Cake stand – identification please  … « on: December 15, 2012, 04:26:56 AM »

The wife purchased this at auction several weeks ago in a sort of box-lot with several other pieces of glass and all her attempts at trying to identify it – maker and/or pattern name  – has failed.
http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=12721.msg77902;topicseen#msg77902

The granddaughter posted a picture (see below) on an EAPG website and the response was quick, to wit:

Sid Lethbridge commented on your photo in Early American Pattern Glass Society.

Sid Lethbridge 1:11am Aug 13

Belmont Glass Works No. 489 introduced in 1889. There are several AKAs that can be found in the files here.

[KC]

Yayyyyy!  I remember that post!  Four years coming for the answer!  Persistence pays off!

[jacon4]

Persistence pays off!

Yes it does! This story reminds me of my "bird" chest of drawers saga from 2010 where i was the underbidder and was kicking myself for YEARS over losing it until one day i met the person who bested me at auction that day. Long story short, the bird chest now belongs to me, it's rightful owner all along!

[ghopper1924]

Wow, 2 happy endings in one post. Good going (and memories) guys!!

[mart]

I remember that stand !!  Has it been that long ??  Glad you finally found the maker/date !!

[KC]

Nice story on yours as well jacon4.  So, big $$$ collectors of that style must travel in small circles to come across the actual person who won it...and then you got it? 

[jacon4]

and then you got it?

Yep, i did, a bit of serendipity there for sure! There are about 2 dozen of those chest that still exist, most in museums and only 10 with a single dovetail on drawer construction. I was very fortunate to have another wack at getting it, i didn't miss the second time.

[jacon4]

 So, big $$$ collectors of that style must travel in small circles

Well, early americana is not exactly "in" these days, according to dealers, not even museum's are buying unless it's a piece that really "fits" their collection. The reason? according to dealers, no one is interested in early americana and curators are not exhibiting the early stuff they already have. Take that "bird" chest above, 20 years ago that would have been at Christie's and sold in the 40k range, today, you'd be lucky to get half that.

Long story short and to answer your question, YES, the group of folks who collect early furniture is getting smaller & smaller! Course, there is a PLUS side to all this, it let's the little people like me take a wack at pieces that were totally unreachable 20 years ago. 40k for a chest of drawers? the wife would have SHOT ME DEAD! lol

[ghopper1924]

Early American furniture is suffering too? Victorian is now getting to be very difficult to find as well. There are now two "antique towns" close to me that I don't even bother going to anymore. No antique stores left.

[jacon4]

Early American furniture is suffering too?

Yep, it is, particularly in the middle market which represents about 80-90% of the pieces. Naturally, the best of the best still commands big bucks but generally speaking, there has never in my lifetime been a better time to collect early american furniture. The only exception? Shaker, but that is not considered early american.

[mart]

Early American furniture is suffering too? Victorian is now getting to be very difficult to find as well. There are now two "antique towns" close to me that I don't even bother going to anymore. No antique stores left.

Mmm,,I think they all moved to Texas !!

[jacon4]

The pictures are missing

First words on this thread and, i have noticed that as well, what's up with missing photo's on older threads? trying to save space or something?

[ghopper1924]

Early American furniture is suffering too? Victorian is now getting to be very difficult to find as well. There are now two "antique towns" close to me that I don't even bother going to anymore. No antique stores left.

Mmm,,I think they all moved to Texas !!

Really? All the stores specializing in Victorian have moved over to Texas? Dang. Too bad you're so far away!

[KC]

Nope...they are rarer here as well.  If you find them they are priced sky-high, or they are terribly marred, covered in chalk paint, etc.

All in all, this will improve prices in the future!

Jacon4, when the site crashed last year and was rebooted/updated the pics disappeared unfortunately.  Ed has worked on it but couldn't get it back.
Also...if the wife had whacked you she probably would have put your urn on top of the chest!  (Would have made for some interesting Provenance!