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The One That Got Away (almost)
« on: August 29, 2016, 02:43:14 pm »
Joined oak & pine chest of drawers, Boston, 1690-1710. I was the under bidder on this chest in 2010 but, by chance i met the winner and made a deal to buy it years later. Good thing too because i was really ill for a long time over this one. I call it the "bird chest" because of the 24 known, 1 has it's original paint decoration with birds as the central theme.

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2016, 03:12:40 pm »
Beautiful chest!!!

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2016, 04:16:34 pm »
Thanks! i was lucky i got a second chance. Kinda slow in here today, figured i'd throw in a post on old furniture.
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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2016, 07:03:20 pm »
It is a bit dull isn`t it ??  Yes I have seen this one before !!  It is nice !!  Don`t guess you have a pic of the painted one do you ??

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2016, 03:45:33 am »
lol, dull? I will SMITE you!!! Well, it is not real shiny no, dang Mart, this chest of drawers is over 300 years old! For an american piece, it's an incredible survivor. It is interesting because it represents the changes happening in american furniture at the beginning of the 18th century, the frame is riven oak and joined, the drawers are side hung, all pretty standard construction during the 17th century. What's different is, the front feet, the single dovetail on the drawers and the PAINT! long gone on this chest. This was america's first stab at the William & Mary style and the beginning of the end of joiners as the dominate furniture makers in america, from here on, cabinetmakers and the dovetail RULED!
There is only 1 chest of the 24 known that still has it's original paint, at the Brooklyn museum. The MET has a bird chest as well, when it was donated in 1909 from the Bolles collection, in Bolles notes he wrote "bird decorations" however, the Met refinished the chest and that was THAT! Pic's below are chest at Brooklyn & the MET.

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2016, 04:03:57 am »
Dull !!  Meant the forum Jacon4,, not your chest !!

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2016, 04:07:19 am »
The Met refinished it ??  What were they thinking ??

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2016, 04:24:32 am »
The Met refinished it ??  What were they thinking ??

One has to consider the context at the time. It was 1909 and, no museum in America had a single piece of American furniture in their collections, american furniture was not considered worthy of collecting. Mrs Russell Sage bought the Eugene Bolles collection of american furniture and donated it to the MET, along with the funds to build the New American Wing at the MET which opened in 1929. The Bolles collection was/is the foundation of the American Wing and i am guessing at that time, the curators wanted to put the best face possible on American built furniture as this was the first time in history that american furniture was displayed in a museum.

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2016, 05:38:24 am »
That just goes to show you, always leave the furniture in the state which the maker intended. As someone who loves the (now unfashionable) Victorian, I share their liking for furniture of the 17th century, and that bird chest is very cool. I recognize the context argument, but it's still sad that the Met did that refinishing job. Kind of like the "shabby chic" of their time!
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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2016, 07:35:18 am »
but it's still sad that the Met did that refinishing job

Well, yes & no, the thing is, we don't live in a perfect world and the MET did a lot right considering the time, 1909. They convinced Mrs Sage to buy the Bolles collection, then talked her into providing much of the money to build an American Wing to display that collection. This was all very radical at the time, american furniture was considered trash in the decorative art world. Bottom line is, were mistakes made? yes! but at the end of the day an irreplaceable part of american furniture history was saved.
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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2016, 07:41:04 am »
Yes, kudos to the Met for their vision, and in more than just American furniture.

My real argument is, when it comes to furniture, leave well enough alone and try to carry on the maker's vision as best you can. After all, that's why you bought it, yes?
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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2016, 09:49:29 pm »
Okay, I almost choked I couldn't catch my breath laughing so hard reading about Mart saying "It is a bit dull isn`t it ??" and jacon4 taking it the wrong way!  Oh my goodness - death by forum!  Mart pretty much writes the way she talks I bet (so do I - so I got it).

The Met did the best they thought at the time.  So Kudos for that.
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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2016, 01:31:57 am »
Well, you know how it is, i am always on the look out to SMITE! the old woman!

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2016, 04:57:31 pm »
LOL !!  But ya` love me don`t you Jacon4 ??  :)

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Re: The One That Got Away (almost)
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2016, 01:56:54 am »
lol, oh yeah, like a lion loves antelope, SMITE!