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CarlyLyn

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Antique Credenza with marble
« on: September 13, 2016, 07:54:33 pm »
Hi!  (First post).  I am trying to identify this piece and find some information on value. My husband and I have searched all through it for any markings and can't find anything. This, Google has been less than helpful because I don't really even know where to start. Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2016, 09:48:28 pm »
Wow, what a beauty! Looks like renaissance revival, walnut, ca. 1870. It's hard to know because I don't know what kind of condition issues it might have, but if you're in the U.S. I'd say it was made in the northeast, probably New York, by one of the "Broadway makers," like Herter Bros.  The value could vary widely, from about $4000 on up.
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 03:37:46 am »
Looking at your above picture, I keep getting this vibe that I’m seeing the top section of a 2-piece hutch ....... and not a credenza.  :o :o :o   

Just to give you an idea of what I’m thinking it would have originally looked similar to,

 
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 06:20:55 am »
Is there a drawer where the drop pulls are ??  If so can you open it and take a pic of the dovetail joints on the side ??  This does not look like an American made piece but rather like those made in the UK !! 
Where did you get this piece ??

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 07:37:07 am »
Herter Bros? uhhhhhhhhhhhh, nooooooooooooo. I'd say 1870 as well but Herter is a whole other level of cabinet and usually has cherry secondary wood.

https://new.liveauctioneers.com/item/13425492_rare-spectacular-herter-brothers-credenza

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 09:10:19 am »
Yeah, I know. I said LIKE Herters, just in case the use of a prominent name might ring a bell. No, it's nor Herter's, not Pottier & Stymus, not Alexander Roux. But it IS a quality piece of furniture, one to feel good about owning.
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 04:52:25 pm »
When I first glanced at it it looked like the TOP portion of a 2 piece cabinet.

However, after magnifying it - it looks like a one piece item.  With the drawer at the top and marble on the top it is complete as is.  I would call it a credenza - however, they were called parlor cabinets, etc.

The style is reminiscent of late 1800's.  My first inclination is American Made...but something is nagging at me that it could be European.  Similar in style to this one from roughly same time period

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supreme-Heavily-Burled-Walnut-Victorian-Marble-Top-Credenza-Cabinet-Ca-1870-/351704661106?hash=item51e33b3c72:g:PBMAAOSwGYVXCnjo
and here

https://www.rubylane.com/item/293185-M39/Victorian-Marble-Top-Console-Credenza-Parlor
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2016, 05:38:10 pm »
Yes, it's a credenza.
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2016, 07:10:35 pm »
Pretty sure its an English piece !!  Looks like it may be missing the base that had legs/feet !!   Has a line of wear, very even across the bottom edge exactly the same size all the way across !!  Would indicate that it sat inside something !!  My guess is that the feet/legs were attached to a separate base !!

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2016, 07:37:21 pm »
Thank you all for your responses!  I will take a picture of the inside of the drawer tomorrow. This is in a home we just purchased.  It belonged to the original owner and has sat there at the fromt door ever since. 


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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 05:16:22 am »
CarlyLyn, do you live in England?
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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 06:11:48 am »
Was about to ask the same thing !!

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2016, 06:30:03 am »
Any antique cabinet that its base sits “flat” on the floor should “trigger” the questions of, ….. is something missing, …. has it been modified?

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2016, 08:42:06 am »
I am not in England.  I'm in SW Florida.  Did I stumble across an English forum?  :) 

I just had a local dealer offer to buy it from me for $200.  I said no thank you, though I do want to sell it.

My reason for not thinking it goes on top of something is that would then make the top center drawer inaccessible, I would think?

I'm going to the house in a bit and will take a picture of the inside.  Thank you all again.

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Re: Antique Credenza with marble
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2016, 09:31:34 am »
Not all were as tall as the one in Cogar`s pic !!  Many had a base that was maybe 8 to 10 inches tall !!   It was a simple frame with the legs/ feet attached to it !! The main portion then sat inside the frame,, about an inch or so !!  Thats why this piece looks incomplete to me !!  Of course its always possible that the base became damaged in some way so was just discarded !!  Imagine this credenza with a large bun type foot ect !!