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jacon4

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Re: William & Mary table
« Reply #60 on: October 04, 2016, 01:44:23 pm »
, Yeah, i saw that stain.Staining or foxing does not bother me, hey, it's old paper and besides, perfection is borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrring. Eagles are birds Mart, lol,  birds of prey actually.
What did you think of "lady washington"? on that horse, would you pay $110,000. for that? someone did in 2005. I think a museum bought it.
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« Reply #61 on: October 04, 2016, 02:41:24 pm »
LOL !!  Again,, Jacon4,, you missed the point !!  Many would not like that much staining on something they buy !!   Thats kind of like buying an antique lace table cloth and finding that someone already spillled wine on it !!   Not talking about the normal stains of age !!  And if I were advertising something of that era,, eagles sound much more appealing than just a couple of birds sitting on a tree limb !!  What I meant was that because of this it may sell at a more reasonable price !!
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« Reply #62 on: October 04, 2016, 03:21:34 pm »
You could be right, we will know this weekend.
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« Reply #63 on: October 05, 2016, 07:20:32 am »
 What I meant was that because of this it may sell at a more reasonable price !!

True, except as a collector of 300 year old furniture, those pieces ALWAYS have condition issues so i have a pretty high tolerance for that kind of thing. If one doesn't, they need to collect mid century modern where you can get almost perfect examples, that sort of perfect piece just does not exist in my world of collecting.
With Fraktur, i do not really know because i haven't been collecting long but, if it's a known artist, has a feeling condition issues are over looked to a large extent, same as they are with very old furniture.
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« Reply #64 on: October 05, 2016, 09:42:40 am »
Quote from: jacon4 on October 04, 2016, 01:44:23 pm
, Yeah, i saw that stain.Staining or foxing does not bother me, hey, it's old paper and besides, perfection is borrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrring. Eagles are birds Mart, lol,  birds of prey actually.
What did you think of "lady washington"? on that horse, would you pay $110,000. for that? someone did in 2005. I think a museum bought it.

When I looked at that one I thought Russian Folk art !!  Or done by a Russian immigrant !!  No way would I pay that !! 
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« Reply #65 on: October 05, 2016, 11:36:02 am »
On the issue of condition in regards fraktur, check out this link, on far left hand column 9 down from the top is lot #341, estimate was $100-$200, basically just a fragment really, sold for $2500.

https://www.pinterest.com/kenscottartist/virginia-fraktur-southern-arts-crafts/
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« Reply #66 on: October 05, 2016, 01:58:04 pm »
The old woman is losing it over there with her antique puter equipment! BAM! 9 down from left column is here-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------> http://jeffreysevans.hibid.com/lot/10156124/augusta-co---shenandoah-valley-of-virginia/?q=fraktur&ref=lot-list
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« Reply #67 on: October 05, 2016, 05:31:30 pm »
No I just counted everything on the left,,you didn`t say to not count the wooden ware !!  Speaking of which,, Did you see that southern pine hanging corner cupboard ??  Now that I like !! 
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« Reply #68 on: October 05, 2016, 05:44:36 pm »
I didn't notice it till now but yeah, nice one, sold by Pook i see. I'll be interested to see how Pook does with this W&M table, it's a little odd to see that piece at Pook as they specialize in Pa german objects.
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« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2016, 04:14:47 pm »
OK, pie safe just sold for  $6600. with BP soooooooooooooooooo oooooooooo, i won that guess~timate Mart, i'll be expecting my applaud point anytime now! You still have a shot tomorrow on that W&M piece though!

#2 fraktur went for $1560 with BP
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« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2016, 06:32:48 pm »
You`re kidding ??  I would not have thought either one would do that well !!  ,,,Yes I gave you your karma point !! 
Just goes to show I need to stay with what I know,,late 19th and 20th century furniture !!  This stuff is too rich for my blood !
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« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2016, 12:14:44 am »
Nope, no kidding! Safe wasn't a surprise, yeah it was repainted mid 20th century but still, everything else was original, tins, frame and shelves. Fraktur was a surprise, almost 4 times it's high estimate, no thanks! Safe was lot#1 and fraktur #2 so i was gone from sale in like 3 mins!
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Re: William & Mary table
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2016, 08:50:11 am »
Table went unsold!, It didn't meet reserve so that's that! On to NYC this winter i predict! I didn't think Pook was the place for that table, it just isn't their thing.
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« Reply #73 on: October 08, 2016, 08:59:21 am »
How high did the bidding get ??
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« Reply #74 on: October 08, 2016, 09:17:02 am »
30k, 1 bid up from min., it was NEVER a pook piece and there isn't much else to say about it. I am not knocking Pook, it's just that they do not handle that kind of piece. There was only the single bid from the floor, Pook saw there was only 1 bidder and passed it QUICK like a bunny!

I'll give you a karma point if it makes you feel better but if you recall, i said 3 pages back it wasn't a Pook piece! I have been following that table since 2003, it needs to be marketed where it was born, NYC.
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