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Not sure yet if they have the sugar lid but I have looked all day for amethyst glass with gold trim !!  My eyes are turning purple !!  Help please !!  They want to know who made it and the age and value !! It was her father-in-laws glassware !!

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Re: All you glass people !! Do you know the pattern of this table set ??
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 07:23:14 pm »
Mart,
Now please stop turning purple!  I think the glassware is Early American Pressed Glass (EAPG) Northwood Amethyst Nestor, c. 1910.  Here are the pictures of the butter dish and compote....still looking for the pitcher.

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/262867693248?rmvSB=true

Ok, found the creamer/pitcher:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-EAPG-Northwood-Glass-Company-Amethyst-Nestor-Creamer-c-1902/131998235589?hash=item1ebbb53bc5:g:6LcAAOSwImRYIxv-

It appears Nestor was produced in Indiana, PA by National Glass Co. @ #13 (Northwood Works) 1902; Dugan 1904 (not under National) for several years (no enamel design!):

https://www.mainelyglass.com/eapg-nestor-purple-shaker


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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 08:38:47 pm »
Here is a site with the history of the Northwood Glass Company:

http://theantiquarian.us/Hist.%20Northwood.htm

Also in 1899, Harry Northwood returned to  England, the National Glass Company operated the  site from 1900 – 1904.  From 1904 – 1913 the Dugan Glass Company operated the site.

1906 was the first year Northwood started using the N-in-a-circle as a  trademark.


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Re: All you glass people !! Do you know the pattern of this table set ??
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2018, 10:09:16 am »
Thanks SophieMarie !!  The person who posted had already found that before I had time to get back !!  I looked through a bunch of Northwood but didn`t find that one. Didn`t really know how to describe it !
This one is without the enameling and only has the gold,,I am wondering if Dugan or National made a plain version ??

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 12:36:02 pm »
From what I've seen so far, the only Northwood pattern without enameling (similar to the set in question) is called Regent. 

One is amethyst (which looks a bit red to me):
http://charmingscollectibles.blogspot.com/2012/08/eapg-table-sets-victorian-era.html


The other is cobalt blue:
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/northwood-regent-leaf-medallion-four-piece-tabl-899-c-6102c65187#


I've not been able to find the Nestor pattern with gold trim WITHOUT enameling so far....






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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 01:52:21 pm »
I have not seen it either !!  I even thought about it being sold before the enameling step as a second !!  And of course those that worked there and other mfrs sometimes got to keep imperfect pieces !!  Perhaps that is why the sugar bowl has no lid !! 

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 07:46:36 pm »
It is possible!  I've seen the amethyst Nestor without gold and without enameling in other pieces such as toothpick holder and salt/pepper shaker....

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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 05:39:01 am »
All this talk about “gold trim on amethyst” just reminded me of this pair of Cambridge “Gloria” candlesticks the wife has, ...... enjoy:


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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 10:19:16 am »
That's a great looking set of candleholders Cogar. Do you still actively collect glass? I used to try to save what I thought was interesting, until the china cabinets got filled. Now, when the day comes to get rid of it, it will probably have to be sold by box lots.

One of my favorites would be a breakfast set of Northwood Blue Opalescent in the Paneled Holly pattern with gold.

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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 11:15:19 am »
Cogar and Rauville,

Both treasures are simply beautiful!

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2018, 12:27:44 pm »
Cogar and Rauville,

Both treasures are simply beautiful!

Seconded. Gorgeous pieces. So sad to think of them being dispersed in box lots. :(
"I collect antiques because they're beautiful."

-Broderick Crawford

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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2018, 01:29:22 pm »
Both are extremely nice !! Just tell them not to have a garage sale and let them go for pennies on the dollar !! Monetary worth is one thing but what they are worth to the person who spent time collecting them is a different matter entirely !! Can`t put a price on that !!

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« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 06:51:14 am »
Rauville, …… I luv Northwood …… and I really, really like your Blue Opalescent piece.

Me thinks there are a piece or two of Northwood “carnival” sitting on a shelf somewhere around here.

And “HA”, when I first looked at the picture Mart cited in her 1st post, ……. I sez to myself …. “there is something about that glass I like”. I guess you would call it a “vibe” …… or a “gut feeling”.


And Sophie Marie, you did a great job at researching that glassware. :) :) :)
 
And ps, .... iffen you are ever in need of a real challenge, ….. I have a “cranberry opalescent bowl” which I've had for like 20 years ....... that needs identified.

Sam C

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« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 11:42:05 am »
And ps, .... iffen you are ever in need of a real challenge, ….. I have a “cranberry opalescent bowl” which I've had for like 20 years ....... that needs identified

Cogar, we would love to help you identify your glassware!  Don't hold back...give us the details.  We aim to please! 

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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 01:53:38 pm »
Cogar, we would love to help you identify your glassware!  Don't hold back...give us the details.  We aim to please!

Sophie, spoken like someone with a ton of confidence in their research abilities, ……. and I like that because me thinks you are really going to need it with this piece of glassware.

First a little history on my attempt at identifying the piece.

After personally querying all of the glass “experts” that I knew, or knew of, I posted pictures of the bowl on The Glass Message Board on November 25, 2007, but to no avail. Whether the “link” is still “active” or not, I do not know, but this was the url “link” to that posting, to wit:   
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=4d37e6d29583a39bf7f8fb6087810a66&topic=18241.0

Next I discovered this AQF site on the Internet ….. and thus was when I posted pictures of the bowl on Antique Question Forums on January 31, 2009, and the url “link” to that posting is to wit [lots of conversation but the pictures are missing]:   
http://www.antique-shop.com/forums/index.php?topic=4243.msg9872#msg9872

Sophie Marie, here are the bowl’s dimensions, to wit:

Width --- outer edge – flare tip to tip - 10 ¼ to 10 ½ in.
Width --- outer edge - handle to handle – 11 ¼ in.
Height --- to top of flares --- 4 ¼ in.

And here are a couple pictures of the bowl, to wit: