Suspected Maison Jansen Bar Cart

[Michael.Conor]

Hello Forum!

I believe I have a Mason Jansen (Mason Bagues) Bar cart in my possession. Was wondering if anyone could confirm my suspicions and maybe help guide me in pricing it?

Thanks.

[mart]

Well,, looks like it could be Jansen !!  How did you come to own this cart ??

[Michael.Conor]

Hey Mart. Appreciate the input. I had a neighbour who was moving and she had purchased this at an estate sale a number of years ago. I had mentioned to her that my girlfriend was looking for a bar cart/trolley a while ago and how she always adored my neighbours. At the time I knew nothing about Maison Jansen so I did some research on the cart after I purchased it for my girlfriends birthday. Online I found this link to a similar cart which has similarities but also marked differences. Also I am unaware of the sites reliability in terms of listing accurate items and price ranges:

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/tables/bar-carts/round-bar-cart-attributed-to-maison-bagues/id-f_8998391/

[Rauville]

I wouldn't feel confident giving an opinion as to what or what not that piece is, based on my never handling an authentic example. That said, the first thing I see is what appears to be a simple "silver soldered"(?) connection of the handle to the frame with visible gaps. Maybe that's the way they were all made?

[mart]

I am not totally sure about it either Rauville !!  There are many similarly styled carts and Jansen usually put a small brass tag with the name and where made !! But that could have easily been removed !!  Let me check more tomorrow !! You are wise not to put much faith in 1stdibs !!  They are always grossly overpriced and do not reflect todays market !!  Will let you know if I find anything definitive yes,no or maybe !! !!

[Michael.Conor]

I wouldn't feel confident giving an opinion as to what or what not that piece is, based on my never handling an authentic example. That said, the first thing I see is what appears to be a simple "silver soldered"(?) connection of the handle to the frame with visible gaps. Maybe that's the way they were all made?

Rauville and Mart thanks both for your replies! Any info you can find would be greatly appreciated! Rauville could you clarify what you mean about the soldering of the handle to the frame and what that indicates? I wasn't too clear on what the implications of that were.

[SophieMarie]

I found an oval one (1970-1979) that is similar to yours, but do not know the manufacturer:

https://www.1stdibs.co.uk/furniture/tables/bar-carts/beautiful-french-oval-brass-drinks-trolley-bar-cart/id-f_6769253/

[SophieMarie]

And, finally a round French bar cart (1960-1969):

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/tables/bar-carts/small-french-round-brass-bar-cart/id-f_7403193/

While you have a very nice French bar cart, I don't think it is a Jansen.   Your item has a very distinctive round handle.  The Jansen's that I viewed have a more "squared" handle.

[Michael.Conor]

Sophie I think you're spot on with your detective work! Those two pieces you listed are pretty much spot on matches. I wish the website provided more information on the pieces and who the actual manufacturer was! Really appreciate your help.

[KC]

Beat me to it SophieMarie!  Just the handled, attachments of handles don't look the same quality that I have seen.

[Michael.Conor]

If anyone is interested in what the list price was for the cart that Sophie linked to I messaged the dealer and they provided it for me. Not to say my cart is worth that amount although it is identical it is neat to know that in the right market it could fetch a fair price. My girlfriend is ecstatic with it so more than anything I think that's most important.

[mart]

Nice price but that includes shipping from France doesn`t it ??  That is what is listed in the details !!

[SophieMarie]

Michael,

I'm glad the birthday present turned out to be so special for your girlfriend!

[Michael.Conor]

Hey Mart,

From my brief research on that seller alot of the items are located in France. Overall I think the shipping price is 600 plus dollars to get it to the rest of the world. I'm not entirely sure if the shipping price is included in the total price however.

[Michael.Conor]

I believe the 600 dollars is to the rest of the world (aka not to the US). On the identical table web page it lists that it cost 255 dollars to ship to the continental US. Does not specify if that was in the list price. See picture.