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I know there are excellent glass people here,,and I am not one of them !!  Help !!
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Re: To break the boredom,, see if anyone knows this glass pattern,,!!
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 12:35:52 am »
NOT. A. CLUE.   but    HAPPY EASTER!

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 06:35:55 pm »
LOL !!  Come on Jacon4,, just guess !!  You can`t be any worse than I am !!

Hope you had a wonderful Easter as well !! 

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2018, 07:30:15 pm »
Still waiting on this one !!

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« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2018, 04:22:28 am »
Probably "Kroger" glass.

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2018, 07:22:56 pm »
Never heard  of that one !!  Must look it up !!

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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2018, 05:28:29 am »
You will never find it.

And that's because I coined the "name" to define the glass/dinner ware given out as "premiums" by grocery chains as a means of increasing "repeat" sales.


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Re: To break the boredom,, see if anyone knows this glass pattern,,!!
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2018, 06:46:00 pm »
   ;D !!  Now why didn`t you say "Premium"glassware and I would have known what you meant !!

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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 10:35:48 pm »
I've seen this pattern several times now and each time it is referred to as the "teardrop" pattern.  No manufacturer is mentioned.  I've attached just one photo to show that another does exist!  Do you know if it is a candy dish or some kind of server?  It is hard to tell the size in the picture.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2018, 05:52:33 am »
   ;D !!  Now why didn`t you say "Premium"glassware and I would have known what you meant !!

What are you telling me, Mart, …….

That my reference to the name “Kroger glass” ….. was bad.

Whereas others referencing of the names “twig handles”, "bamboo handles” and/or other “usually-referred-to-as” items of discussion …….. is always good.

Mart, there is “irony” in the title you chose for this conversation, to wit:

To break the boredom,, see if anyone knows this”

Was that directed to the general AQF audience or just to the elitist “click” members of this forum?

Why would an “outsider” even venture an opinion or guess when they know they will likely be chastised, berated or “badmouthed” by one of the “click” iffen said "click" member dislikes or finds fault with said opinion or guess.

This site has morphed from "busy" to "boredom" ...... and it was not of my doing.

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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2018, 02:30:58 pm »
Hi Cogar,
I've been a little under the weather lately so haven't been on the site as much, but am on the upswing!  As always, you know that I value your opinion on these inquiries.  Having said that, I've been catching up on my reading here.  I really don't think that are "good" or "bad" representations but rather various ideas.  We all see things differently and its always great to work together as a team to solve these mysteries.  The Kroger glass comment was to make a point...and, I get it.  Before you had blown up the teapot photos, I saw bamboo-like handles.  But, after looking again because of your photo, I saw it differently .  But, the bottom line here, is that we really haven't found a really similar teapot....so much of what we have is speculation.  So, let's pull it together and not disappoint the audience :)  Hope you are doing well!

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2018, 07:02:44 pm »
Cogar,, you know me better than that !!  It was generally just something I could not find and knew that all you glass people here would probably be able to give an answer faster than me trying to look it up !!  I mean,, it had been  a bit slow on the forum lately !!  Just thought it was a good brain teaser since there are so many diamond patterns and I certainly do knot know many of them !!  I thought Kroger glass was a pretty good name but had never heard that term so I thought( not being a glass person like you are) that I might learn something knew !!
I was not aware of any "click" on this forum !!  We each have our own areas that we know better than others and glass is not mine,,furniture is what I know best !!  I am not sure how to address the forum other than to say "anyone" that may know the answer !!  And KC made the mention of "twig handles"  not me !!  That was just another way that some refer to them !!  Me ?  I was calling them "bamboo handles" !! 
So in closing,, I have no idea why I upset you but please accept my apology !! I certainly will try to think of a more inclusive term than to say "anyone who knows" !!

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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2018, 08:48:32 pm »
Ok, so this is how I found the dish...blew up the picture and they looked like teardrops; not diamonds :)

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« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2018, 09:14:29 am »
Hi Cogar,
Before you had blown up the teapot photos, I saw bamboo-like handles.  But, after looking again because of your photo, I saw it differently .  But, the bottom line here, is that we really haven't found a really similar teapot....so much of what we have is speculation.  So, let's pull it together and not disappoint the audience :)  Hope you are doing well!

SophieMarie, I didn't enlarge the photo because I disagreed with the per se "bamboo handle", ...... I enlarged the picture SIMPLY BECAUSE no one had identified the maker or origin of the tea service. After enlargement, the handles did not look to me to be simulated “bamboo” (or woody “twig” handles for that matter) ……. and that was my expressed opinion.

And that was when KC specifically addressed me, apparently to insure that I knew she had changed her “expert” opinion from “bamboo” to “twig” handles ….. with an included CYA stating her reason was “to cover all natural resemblances”.

“HOOEY”, ….. but I now realize why KC may have acquired her “bamboo” belief after finding this description this morning, to wit:

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…. from our teapot collection, a beautiful English white porcelain antique teapot made by Coalport AD 1750, England. it has a fabulous gold decoration, and decorative spout. bamboo style handle, …etc…
http://www.antiques.com/classified/Antique-Porcelain---Pottery/Antique-Teapots---Tea-Sets/Antique-Antique-Coalport-Teapot-White-Porcelain-Gilt-Decoration-England

Iffen I am seeing correctly, the handle of the 1750 English teapot is almost an identical match to the above "questionable" teapot.

And "Yes", SophieMarie, let's not disappoint the audience (what's left of it) by making them fearful of posting their questions.

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« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2018, 11:24:31 am »
Cogar,, you know me better than that !! 

Mart, sure I know you better than that and I also know exactly why you posted your “what’s-it” question.

This ain't my 1st rodeo, ya know ..... but it is my 78th trip around the Sun.

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I thought Kroger glass was a pretty good name but had never heard that term so I thought that I might learn something knew.

Shur nuff, Mart, shur nuff, ……. anyway, that only rarely happens with my postings because whenever I use an uncommon or “local” term such as “Kroger glass” I usually always try to explains what it is or means for the benefit of the ones, or twos, or dozens or hundreds of “viewers” who might be reading my posted comment(s).

But the last time I was still highly irritated because of the “clicky” handle thingy concerning the tea service on the other thread and said “to hell with an explanation of Kroger glass”. Why should I bother explaining my “pet names” of items when no one else bothers to explain their “pet” names for items and why am I being questioned about my "actions" when no one else is being questioned for similar actions. Maybe it is the ole "sexual harassment" trick where what is said matters not, ...... but who said it matters a lot.

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I am not sure how to address the forum other than to say "anyone" that may know the answer !!


If you don’t ask “questions” you may never know the “answer” to resolve your curiosity, and your way of “asking” is fine with me.

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And KC made the mention of "twig handles"  not me !!


“YUP”, shur nuff, ..... but KC made mention of "bamboo handles" prior to KC making mention of "twig handles" specifically for my benefit..   

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So in closing, ……. I certainly will try to think of a more inclusive term than to say "anyone who knows" !!


That’s probably a good idea, Mart, ….. because “those who know” may be scarcer than “hen’s teeth” and some of them wouldn’t respond even if you specifically ask them to, …… and those who don’t know won’t have any reason to reply.

“HA”, I didn’t know, but I offered my opinion …… and I sure as hell got ignored, derided and criticized for doing said. And I still think said tea service is English in origin, ….. and that makes me correct until someone provides good reason or proves otherwise.