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Chinese bronze lion?
« on: June 02, 2018, 06:43:10 pm »
I just bought this guy for $25 online. It looks old, but maybe someone has just gone to a lot of trouble to make it appear that way. The feet of the animal are attached to the base with some rusted iron or steel nails that can be seen sticking out of the bottom if you flip it over. It's not magnetic. What do y'all think?

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2018, 06:46:05 pm »
One more pic

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2018, 07:11:19 pm »
 I have no opinion on authenticity our age, but a very cool piece and for only 25 bucks!
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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2018, 04:34:58 pm »
No real information here except that if it was a "really really old" piece you wouldn't see a screw but it would have been welded.  Maybe someone else will chime in!
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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 04:38:39 pm »
I can only chime in by saying that those tapestries on the wall behind the lion look pretty cool!  8)
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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2018, 08:43:16 pm »
Ha ha thanks, I like tapestries. I don't think those are screws KC, just iron or steel rods helping hold the feet onto the base. I read that the Greeks did this with some of their bronzes (using iron rods to attach arms and legs etc), but I don't know if its correct for old Chinese stuff or not. The patina and all the corosion looks legit, but it might only be a hundred years old and been outside for the last fifty years or something

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2018, 12:46:30 am »
Channel page have a detailed system that says it is not interesting at all.

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2018, 06:36:34 am »
Of course I know everyone wants their stuff to be old and valuable and most of the time it isn't. This has a little bit of some kind of pinkish yellow dirt in some of the crevices as well, so it was either buried or someone wanted it to look like it was buried

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2018, 10:59:48 am »
They sometimes bury them to resemble ageing and remove the fresh look of something recently made.

I would say it’s not that old but it might be a 20s, 30s piece which was buried in undergrowth for a time.

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2018, 01:09:39 pm »
Thanks. If you've got time I'd be interested to know what about it marks it out to you as being not genuine

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 04:43:03 pm »
Channel page have a detailed system that says it is not interesting at all.

You might want to explain that statement !!

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2018, 04:47:33 pm »
Thanks. If you've got time I'd be interested to know what about it marks it out to you as being not genuine

I would agree with Ipcress estimate of age !!  That base threw me !!  Chinese craftsmen would not have left one like that !!  They were excellent craftsmen even on inexpensive items !!

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2018, 06:02:57 pm »
Yeah, you're right about base being a bit too amateurish. It does look like its been smashed though. I think it was probably a little more symetrical when it was originaly made.

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2018, 06:46:59 pm »
I do not think the smashed theory works !!  When bronze is poured its a solid metal,, same as cast iron !! Can`t figure how any accident would leave one looking like that !! 

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Re: Chinese bronze lion?
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2018, 08:29:06 pm »
The base is all banged up, you can see that in the picture that shows a view from the bottom. Its possible it was made that way, but to me it looks damaged. This bronze is hollow I think. I believe it has a clay core. The base may have originally had a bronze  surface on the bottom, and that part has been broken and is now gone. Or not, but you can plainly see the exposed clay down there, so that makes sense to me.
I thought all bronze sculptures were hollow, except for very very small ones? Thats what I've read on all the websites I've researched.
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