Author Topic: I did my searches and came up with nothing. Any ideas? "General Washington"  (Read 9519 times)

cogar

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Craigconewbie, this is how you describe your “mystery” object, to wit:
 
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It is 4.5" high and 8" long
It seems to be woven and embossed.
Maybe the thickness of one sheet of printer paper.
And it has some weight to it, I'm thinking maybe silver?
The back looks identical except the words are in reverse. 
It is definitely metal (rings up on my metal detector

Now, Craigconewbie, ….. I just hafta ask you, ……. just how many “work hours” ….. and just how much “would it cost” (materials and labor) for a person or company to produce just one (1) of said items?

And given your estimated “cost” for producing said “item”, would it be prudent to produce THOUSANDS of said “items” to be used as “logos” or “brand insignias” to be placed/affixed to manufactured products?

A curious mind would like to know.

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Cogar,, Did I miss a post ??  I didn`t see any estimation of cost ??

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Craigconewbie, this is how you describe your “mystery” object, to wit:
 
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It is 4.5" high and 8" long
It seems to be woven and embossed.
Maybe the thickness of one sheet of printer paper.
And it has some weight to it, I'm thinking maybe silver?
The back looks identical except the words are in reverse. 
It is definitely metal (rings up on my metal detector

Now, Craigconewbie, ….. I just hafta ask you, ……. just how many “work hours” ….. and just how much “would it cost” (materials and labor) for a person or company to produce just one (1) of said items?

And given your estimated “cost” for producing said “item”, would it be prudent to produce THOUSANDS of said “items” to be used as “logos” or “brand insignias” to be placed/affixed to manufactured products?

A curious mind would like to know.

I understand your question.  But what if the said item was attached, mounted or in some way part of a display to sell something.  You wouldn't need thousands (one attached to each product), just one for each display case.

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From the description and the fact that the back side is a reverse I believe this is a printing plate.

Thus, it is flexible to go around a drum printer?! or a stamp plate.
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"The "sheet" is way to soft to be a printing plate.  I'm sure that if I applied enough pressure to the "logo" you would smooth it right out so as to be non-existent.  Sort of like taking a blunt object and writing on a piece of foil, then taking a round cylinder type object and rolling over the foil, the impression you just made would disappear.  (I am not saying it is made of foil, it is to heavy for that.)"

It wouldn't survive 10 prints let alone 1000s.

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The "sheet" is way to soft to be a printing plate.  I'm sure that if I applied enough pressure to the "logo" you would smooth it right out so as to be non-existent.

It wouldn't survive 10 prints let alone 1000s.

Craigconewbie, when you have dug yourself into a hole, quit digging, and use Google to help you out, ….. to wit:
 
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How printing works

Offset printing also transfers ink from a printing plate onto paper (or another material), but instead of the plate pressing directly against the paper, there is an extra step involved. The inked plate presses onto a soft roller, transferring the printed image onto it, and then the roller presses against the printing surface—so instead of the press directly printing the surface, the printed image is first offset to the roller and only then transferred across.

Offset printing stops the printing plate from wearing out through repeated impressions on the paper, and produces consistently higher quality prints.

Read more @ https://www.explainthatstuff.com/how-printing-works.html

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I give up.  I have seen and handled printing plates.  This is not a printing plate.

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I have no clue,, stilll say take it to  a museum or someone that may have an idea of its use !!  They see much more than we do !!

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This is one of those items that a hands-on inspection is needed. 

I do have a few more questions if you please.  1)  is that a "ring" on the right side of the logo?  2) What are the items in the logo that you see if you can please describe them.  3)  Does the logo have the "appearance" of a stitched item?  (Reason I ask is it somehow reminds me of the popular Martha Washington and George Washington old logos I saw years ago for chenille bedspreads.)

I see that you have posted this item on some other sites (as they have also noted) and think that you have had several wonderful suggestions/recommendations.

Please let us know what you find out after you get a hands-on inspection.  We would like to know as well.
« Last Edit: August 29, 2018, 04:21:40 pm by KC »
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This is one of those items that a hands-on inspection is needed. 

I do have a few more questions if you please.  1)  is that a "ring" on the right side of the logo?  2) What are the items in the logo that you see if you can please describe them.  3)  Does the logo have the "appearance" of a stitched item?  (Reason I ask is it somehow reminds me of the popular Martha Washington and George Washington old logos I saw years ago for chenille bedspreads.)

I see that you have posted this item on some other sites (as they have also noted) and think that you have had several wonderful suggestions/recommendations.

Please let us know what you find out after you get a hands-on inspection.  We would like to know as well.

1)  No (see #2)

2) There are non-distinct leaves and branches (or vines) and a ribbon on each side (the "ring" is part of the ribbon).

3)  No

Thank you everyone for your suggestions.

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Can you please post a picture of the back side?
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Another thought comes to mind since you said it was very soft !!  A machine embroidery patten !!  It would literally be embroidered over the pattern then the background material is removed !!  These can be done as a single or as many as you want !!  This is an old method where the machine embroiders over the pattern and is usually done by a person !!  Now days it is all done with computers !!

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Can you please post a picture of the back side?

Here you go, the back side.  The lighting was a little different than the first picture.  The logo shows up a little better on this one, besides it being in reverse.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 06:10:12 pm by craigconewbie »

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Another thought comes to mind since you said it was very soft !!  A machine embroidery patten !!  It would literally be embroidered over the pattern then the background material is removed !!  These can be done as a single or as many as you want !!  This is an old method where the machine embroiders over the pattern and is usually done by a person !!  Now days it is all done with computers !!

Thanks for the thought.

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I used to have all my western shirts done this way !!  Bling was not in fashion back then unless you had it done yourself !!