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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2019, 09:18:58 am »
And finally, English Tudor 15th century cupboard, Tudor marked the end of medieval period in england & beginning of the english renaissance
Bottom pic is a Tudor cupboard at the MET, late 15th century

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2019, 09:40:45 am »
"Anyone willing to guess about the value? I've already bought it so that's moot, I'm just curious"

Geez, not a clue! Wait for others to post, Mart & Ghopper. Not as much as you would think, how much did you pay? If it was a period piece like photos above, it would be some serious money but late 19th century revival is a totally different dealio.
Thing is, it's not about the money, it's about having interesting things to live with.  :)

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2019, 10:51:33 am »
WOW, this is all so cool!! I love that it's Gothic, but, like you say...it's about having something interesting to live with.

Thanks for the compliments about the house, it's really just a big farmhouse. We like it!

As for what I paid...haha...I'll tell after some people give their opinions on what it's worth. Maybe I got hosed, but I love it so much, I don't think I care.

I'm waiting to hear back from the seller about what else she can tell me about the cabinet.

Thanks soooo much!!!

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2019, 01:01:54 pm »
OK Jacon 4 ( hit the right key this time)  You paid between $750. and $1200.although the lower is what I would think !!

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2019, 01:20:53 pm »
Hard to say without putting eyes and hands on it, but northeast of you in Missouri I'd say $1K to $1500 on a good day.
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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2019, 01:27:42 pm »
OK Jacon 4 ( hit the right key this time)

And,  i was counting on a prize!  :P

I'll tell after some people give their opinions on what it's worth

OK Amber, let's hear it!  :) I'd say that would be fair in a retail setting what Mart & Ghopper quoted (750-1500), naturally location matters quite a bit on these things. I am more an american 17th- 18th century kinda furniture guy so i really don't know on your cabinet.
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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2019, 06:44:41 pm »
Beautiful house!
Yeah, is! very nice.
OK, let's get back to my fav subject, old furniture!
In the beginning (1000-1250), they had a problem, how to join the boards together to make furniture forms? wood nails or pegs had not been thought of or invented yet, the answer? IRON STRAPS!!! YES! that's it!
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Can you tell Jacon4 is really in to the old stuff !!
This chest cupboard is a reproduction on the older styles !!  This has been done since 1800 `s although this one is not that old !!  Still,, over a hundred years old aint too shabby !!
Love your house AmberS !!

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2019, 07:37:57 pm »
Your house is big enough to make a perfect setting for the cupboard, which regardless of age or origin will be the only one in the neighborhood I bet. It reminds me almost of a vestry from a church?

Here's a seller from overseas that carries interesting pieces: http://www.bae.be/inventory/individual-items

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2019, 03:37:11 am »
Can you tell Jacon4 is really in to the old stuff !!

Well yeah is!  Pretty interesting, you take those small "Aumbry" cupboards ( name for food cupboard in middle ages) is basically a 500-700 year old medieval pie safe, a form of furniture still being made in the early 20th century.
They occasionally come on the market and competition for them is fierce, they have EVERYTHING going for them, they're ancient, they're small, they're still functional & some have very cool Gothic carvings for air vents.
In England during that time called "Livery" cupboard as well as Aumbry, some were wall hung & some had feet similar to a modern day pie safe, VERY cool little cabinets though and highly collectible.

Medieval Aumbry / Livery Cupboards
The top pic is
 " Open-work panels of perpendicular Gothic with the letter A and two single ostrich feathers.Formerly owned by Arthur, Prince of Wales, eldest son of Henry VII. Found in a Shropshire farmhouse." Now in Victoria & Albert Museum, London


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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2019, 03:47:49 am »
Love those Aubrey cupboards. I can see why they're so popular.

Cool link, Rauville!
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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2019, 08:53:31 pm »
OK Jacon 4 ( hit the right key this time)  You paid between $750. and $1200.although the lower is what I would think !!

Whew! Y'all had me a little worried, but I feel good now! I found it on Facebook Marketplace (or more accurately, it found me, jumped right off the screen). Original price was $600 but she accepted $500, maybe because there were no keys for the locks.  I felt like I got a good deal, it was worth $500 to me. I told my kids that they have to pick a nursing home with rooms big enough to allow me to have this cabinet, and then they can bury me in it.

I think I'm going to become an antiques fiend now.  :-)

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2019, 09:25:09 pm »
The Aumbry cupboards are so cool.  I assume they are pretty rare?

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #42 on: September 18, 2019, 03:13:32 am »
 Yes, very rare if in medieval period as wood is a perishable substance and many things can go wrong during that many centuries of time. Even 17th century livery cupboards are rare but much more readily available. At top of this page you see pics of those 2 Tudor (late 15th early 16th century) cupboards and if you notice, the heavy iron straps are gone but the gothic carved air holes are still present.

Here is a mid 17th century english Aumbry/Livery cupboard, same form cupboard but a big difference in decoration

https://www.marhamchurchantiques.com/current-stock/?type=cupboards

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« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2019, 03:17:44 am »
I'd say $500. was very fair for your revival cupboard, you get the medieval "look" for not a lot of money.

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Re: Identity Unknown (Furniture origin)
« Reply #44 on: September 18, 2019, 06:04:32 am »
Ahhh,,we have another antique convert !!  No more Pier 1 for you huh ??   ;D
You got a good deal !!  I am curious to see the inside of the cabinet !! Can you open the top and bottom doors and take a pic ??