jacon4 (MAD?)

[Rauville]

jacon4; I know you read MAD, along with being a student of early furniture. In regard to the report on the Manchester NH show (October issue), what is your opinion of the "early carved oak coffer" shown on page 170? Does the price of $3750 sound realistic for a piece that appears to be dated 1687? Based on a purely speculative idea of condition, that sounds reasonable. I do see that it is noted as selling at the show. Thanks

(I wish I had the knowledge and ability to download the one and only photo.)

[mart]

Hopefully Jacon4 will  download a pic !! Would like to see it !!

[cogar]

Duh, ……shown on page 170?

Is that an Internet page 170 or page 170 in the magazine you have?

I’ll assume the former given you said “ability to download”, ….. meaning download to your PC.

And that could be a problem because some “sites” inhibit the ability to “copy” pictures.

Anyway, …. either “left click” and/or  “right click” on the picture to see if it gives you the options of …. Copy, Save or Save as.

If so, then you can upload to your PC …….. then upload to AQF. 

And sometimes when a picture is “clicked” it will present an enlarged “view”, and if so, just copy the url address and then post it on AQF as an “img” link and …. bingo, we will all be able to view it.

[mart]

Copy and paste does come in handy !!

[jacon4]

what is your opinion of the "early carved oak coffer" shown on page 170?

Hold on, let me check, I'll post a pic if possible

[jacon4]

OK, looked at it, it's from John & Jan Maggs, $3750. is fair if in good condition. Thing is it's English not American so that's why so "cheap". They are dealers in Mass. and travel to England every year, they specialize in early english oak in the "middle market", never bought anything from them put they do have a good reputation. I get their flyer several times a year by email.

[jacon4]

Can't do the photo thingy, at least not easily, guesses their way of saying, SUBSCRIBE or NO PIC'S!
I did download whole page in PDF, let me post that and see what happens!

Nope, not gonna work!

[Rauville]

Thanks for looking at it and for sharing your knowledge. With my reading glasses, seeing that date of 1687 made me think it might be a "bargain".

(A couple of months ago I was thumbing through MAD and came across a show review from back East. In the back of one booth I could see the corner of something that intrigued me. Contacted the dealers, and ended up buying a circa 1890 "horse blanket / cover" with bold advertising from the town I live in.)

[jacon4]

seeing that date of 1687 made me think it might be a "bargain".
Yes i hear you, wouldn't say a bargain but very fair, it's a very nice period example, it's english so that makes a HUGE difference in terms of price.

[jacon4]

made me think it might be a "bargain".

Tell you what, speaking of bargains, one of the best dealers for early stuff in the UK has a half off sale EVERY YEAR around Christmas and i have been tempted more than once to pull the trigger and buy an english piece.
This guy is VERY knowledgeable about early furniture and VERY canny about luring the odd yank to consider English early furniture, he NEVER misses an opportunity when when selling a piece from Devon to remind EVERYONE that Thomas Dennis ( america's most celebrated & researched 17th century joiner) apprenticed there before immigrating to America. 
Add in professional photos and this guy knows how to move product!  One of the best dealer sites IMO on either side of the pond. Add in that 1/2 off sale every year to clear his stock ( even if he takes a loss) so he keeps his product FRESH!

https://www.marhamchurchantiques.com/

[ghopper1924]

I've subscribed to Marhmamchurch for years, even though I've never bought anything from him.

High end, very knowledgeable, and he actually responds to questions. Good stuff!

[jacon4]

High end, very knowledgeable, and he actually responds to questions. Good stuff!

All true!, the bad news? There would be a boat ride involved unless it's a very small object, like a ditty/bible box, i have no idea what it cost to ship furniture from england but i am guessing it isn't cheap.

[mart]

Just be careful of English furniture !!  Their primitive techniques lasted much longer than ours did !!  What looks to us as  an early piece may have been 1900 or after !!

[ghopper1924]

"i have no idea what it cost to ship furniture from england but i am guessing it isn't cheap."

I would guess you're correct. But if I could afford some of the pieces I want from him, then freight would be the least of my worries.

As Debbie Harry once sang: "Dreaming........... dreaming is free.......dreaming .........dreaming is free."

[jacon4]

Wait for is 1/2 off sale, coming up in December! It's a very good deal.
Paul Fitzsimmons the owner, once found a real Thomas Dennis chest in France, I forget the story on how an American 17th century chest ended up there but, it did!
He sold it to a museum here in the states, i am betting he made a pretty penny on that transaction! One of the reasons american 17th century furniture is so valuable is, it's very rare, unlike in europe where they had a very large middle & upper class and LOTS of furniture. We on the other hand had very few people all during the 17th century and therefore, very little furniture that has survived.