Author Topic: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle  (Read 35923 times)

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2010, 07:34:45 pm »
Yikes , talesofthesevenseas .

Glad to hear you're on the mend .

Nice job on the cover/sewing thingie !

Survivor here too (lymph stuff) .
10+ years & no returns .

Speaking of steel bars ... did you hear there's a new dominatrix auction site ?

They call it Obay .


bad man .

Sorry if that one hurt your ribs .

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2010, 09:16:26 pm »
I will head right over and check out that site!!  LOL! Seriously though I'm glad to hear you're kickin' it.  Hmmm... I guess we must have chewed on too much lead paint when we were kids!
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2010, 11:38:55 pm »
Wish you a speedy and permanent recovery TOT7S.

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2010, 07:27:53 am »
Sorry to hear about the Cancer. My sister has it too. I'am suffering from a good dose of agent Orange. ( Vietnam) it's trying very hard too get the better of me.

Were rooting for you' you can do it.

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #49 on: January 11, 2010, 12:42:28 pm »
I will be rooting for you too D&B. *big hug*

Thanks all of you for the support. Now you guys know why I was suddenly in the market for a rocking chair, LOL. It's actually turned out to be wonderful thing to have on those difficult days. Nothing like a good ol' rocker and the cat in your lap sometimes! ;)
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #50 on: January 11, 2010, 05:41:38 pm »
Tales beautiful job on the parasol and from what I have seen on this site is there is nothing you can not do!! my husbands mother went through the same as you and has been a survivor with no return for over 20 years. I will place you in my prayers!!
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #51 on: January 11, 2010, 11:09:44 pm »
Thanks guys! I will post a photo of the whole costume together with the parasol ASAP. I've been wanting to take one since I got the full bustle cage. And again no worries, all indications are that I'll be just fine and will be posting photographs of antique plaster monkey table lamps for years to come! Just gotta do the chemo/radiation thing to make sure.
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2010, 11:28:44 am »
Tales just now reading the thread and see that you are being challenged with your health.  Our prayers are with you.  We have been making meals and taking them to a friend of our sons for the 5 days after her treatments.  We freeze them so she can defrost them and heat them up for her family when she feels she can't do the whole shebang.  She likes it this way because she still feels like she is cooking the whole meal for her family.  Glad to hear you have such a positive attitude and the outlook is very good!  Please keep your "antique-shop family" informed!  We really care!

By-the-way....you did a phenomenal job on the parasol!  Very impressive!
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2010, 01:15:45 pm »
Thanks KC! That is really cool that you did that for your neighbor. I have a neighbor who brought a couple of meals over after my surgery, and it really was a wonderful help that really does make a difficult situation much easier. My husband has volunteered for chauffer duty as needed, since I will need to keep working throughout having chemo and radiation. I'm really fortunate to have people helping me through this, both at home and on-line!  :)  I do have a blog set up where I'm posting my progress if anyone would like to follow along:
http://clairebrittonwarren.blogspot.com

On the parasol, I went looking for one of those little white rubber door stop tips, thinking that it would be good to put on the tip of the parasol to protect it so that it could be rested point downward. But it turns out that they now make these out of hard plastic. So I'm trying to find one online now.

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2010, 06:23:21 pm »
What are the dimensions  of the stop that you need?  That way if any of us find it we can help you out.
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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #55 on: January 15, 2010, 12:11:51 am »
Glad to hear you have such a positive attitude and the outlook is very good!  Please keep your "antique-shop family" informed!  We really care!

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #56 on: January 15, 2010, 12:34:59 am »
LOL thanks m'dears!

That round ball on the tip of the parasol has a 5/8" diameter. I think I found something that will work, although it does not say if 5/8 is the inside or outside diameter:

http://www.jewin.com/product_list.asp?SmallClassID=14&SmallClassName=Tips&act=small

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #57 on: January 15, 2010, 04:16:04 am »

 
The antique dealer also said that he felt the break could be repaired by making an impression from elsewhere on the carving and making a plastic piece that would fill it in.

That not only helped to protect where the two parts of the break come together,……. as there was a slight amount of movement around the threads.

I finally got around to reading this thread and figured I should add my 2 cents on the above, better late than never, for what it might be worth.

I agree, the “allthread” is a recent repair, recent meaning any time in the last 30 – 40 years. It needs to be re-repaired because of that “wiggle” because it will only continue to get worse and which is actually not a big deal to fix it.

Iffen it was me I would do the following: 1. Purchase some Epoxy at WalMart, etc. The type that comes in two (2) little “squeeze” tubes and you mix just enough of each together to make a repair. But don’t mix more than you need at any given time.  3. Get a 5” or 6” long flat blade screwdriver for mixing, etc. 4. Use a black “felt tip” magic marker to mark the “allthread” at the center line of the break in the handle. (see picture above) 5. Grasp the two parts of the handle and unscrew the smaller part. They will come apart and the “allthread” will still be in one of them but it doesn’t matter which one. 6. Get 2 hex nuts and put them on the end of the “allthread” and tighten them “tight together” using 2 wrenches. 7. Then put one wrench on the nut closest to the other part of the handle and unscrew the “allthread” from the other part …… but remember which part that was.

Now you are ready to make the re-repair. And remember it goes back together in reverse order from the way it came apart.

8. Now, squeeze out a 3/4“ round dab from each tube of epoxy, side by side, on a piece of cardboard and using the “flat blade” screwdriver, mix the two together. 9. Pick up the part of the handle that you last removed the “allthread” from and using the screwdriver, put about ½ of the mix inside of the hole in the handle and spread the rest of the mix up the threads of the “allthread” to within ½” of that black “center” mark. 10. Hold the handle so the hole is pointing upward and screw the “all thread” back into it. Put the wrench on the top nut and screw it down until the black “center” mark is back where it originally was. 11. Give it 3 or 4 hours to “cure”.   

12. Take the two wrenches and remove those 2 hex nuts from the “allthread”. 13. Repeat the procedure: mix up a dab of epoxy, part in hole in handle, part on threads, screw handle down on “allthread” to where it originally was, let it cure

Or, take it to someone that has worked with that epoxy.

And that was so long I'll hafta say it was "my 50 cents worth".  ;D ;D

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2010, 09:30:23 am »
What cogar says sounds pretty good for stabilizing the break.  The only thing I will add is if there was any type of glue used on the "allthread" when it was originally repaired, that glue bond needs to be broken before you try to unscrew the handle section.  I would use a soldering gun and put the tip on the exposed metal rod to heat up the metal ONLY.  After the rod is heated, then I would unscrew the handle from the "allthread".  Following cogar's advice on removing the "allthread", you may need to do this procedure twice.  Expoxy will definitely stabilize it internally before you try any external casting match repair.  I am not sure you would need to reuse the "allthread", a solid plastic or nylon rod (epoxy coated when inserted) with the same diameter as the "allthread" would also work.  I would be nervous to use a metal threaded object in ivory but if it unscrews easily, it should also screw back in easily.  Using the parasol as is without stabilizing the break may cause further damage.

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Re: Victorian Parasol with Carved Bone or Ivory Handle
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2010, 09:53:31 am »
One problem is that the threads of the rod seem to have a very tight grip on the ivory and I suspect that it has been glued to the threads or that some of the glue has drizzled in. I don't know that it will actually come apart and I'm hesitant to put much force on it since it looks like there is glue going into a short split just above the break. I think it is probably beyond the scope of my abilities. My guess is that it would need some type of solvent that would not damage the ivory to loosen the hold on the threads before it could be separated.
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