Limoge cup and suacer

[syl]

Can anyone tell me anything about this Limoge cup and saucer? I haven't seen this mark before or heard of the name Depose'. Any idea of age or value?

[sapphire]

Did find what appears to be your mark here........top left

http://e-limoges.com/makers/bawo-limoges-boxes.php

As for age and value, I'm sure others here can be more helpful 

[ironlord1963]

Sniff around a bit through my books and have not found that hallmark.  Did find several references to the word "Depose"  French for Registered.  I think the letters in the Vase B D L. would be the clue.  Did look into Bernardaud, but does not look like it is there mark.  Did notice that on the link page by sapphire, the first one really looks close.  Sorry I have come up dry, but hope someone will shead a bit of light.  But here is my best Guess.  Early 1900's maybe 1920's.  Value with the mark I think you could easily get $30.00, If you find the name 40 to 50.  Not a extra fancy cup but has the Limoges mark, with has a very large collector base.

[KC]

Believe your mark is on this page!

http://e-limoges.com/misc.php

and more detailed information here!  Bawo & Doter Limoge' Porcelain

http://e-limoges.com/makers/bawo-limoges-boxes.php

[syl]

Thanks for the info. Ironlord, you seem to know a lot about cups and saucers. Do you know of websites where they are being offered for sale. I would like to get a better idea of what they sell for. We have a bunch of them, maybe 25+. Some are pretty old, some not. Thanks again.

[ironlord1963]

   For High end value, I use Replacements if you know the pattern and maker, Rubylane is my second best to figure out value, but for true value, Ebay gives you a good ideal of what one may expect to get for a cup and saucer.  As for knowing a lot, well I have just got to the point of knowing enough to be dangerous.  I have sold a couple of dozen cups and saucers thus far, mostly at the local flea market.  Cups of lots of collectors, Keep in mind though it seems the the cup and saucer collector cares about the look, then maybe age and maker.  As a general rule it would seem 20 bucks is what a collector will pay for a cup they like.  Then you have the advance collectors who do care about name and age, These with the right cup you may get 50 for.  To be honest I have only sold the cheap ones for 15.00  to 25.00.

[wendy177]

Syl I do know that many tea cup trios (cup, saucer & small dessert plate) produced by Shelley or Foley which is pre Shelley bring prices as high as $400.00  & up depending on pattern. Limoges tend to not run as high in price unless large sets. So if you have any Shelley- Foley please post photos as I can help to ID patterns for you and value. 

[ironlord1963]

     Thanks Wendy good tip, I too will keep my eyes out for Shelley or Foley.  After reading that I had to do some snooping on those names, and for Tea cup Prices They packed a good punch.   Just a few tips from a Rookie, or actually more like a freshman, with about 8 months of Tea Cup practice.     First Lots of Tea Cup Collectors out there.   What appears to be the case, Appearance seems to be top,  I have had Cups snagged at my table, with hardly a glance at the bottom.  Condition is almost as formost (but we all know that one).  They seem to Consider to touch and look at around $15.00 to $20.00, put $25.00 on a Fancy Cup and mostly won't even be touch.  Online seem to follow the same basically Rules, Picture be Appearance, Touch and Feel being Views.   However you have the 20% Serious collectors, That will pay the Big bucks for those rare and Extra Fancy names.  The question here is how does one find those serious or Rich collectors Who pay that kind of money.  Ebay or Online works well if you know what it is you have. Maker, Age, and Pattern name.  These Collectors will be looking for Keywords, and then the battle is one.  Selling at the Market, Good chance you won't have one of them passing your booth, and if one does better have something to make him Turn their head.  Of course the more you know the more you can ask for a resale value.  My Rookie Views today (Subject to change  )  Basically a good Tea Cup is worth $15.00 ( Basic Nice looking TeaCup), Fancy and Extra Fancy a bit more, Name, Age and etc. Adds.  Never Pay more then 50% of that, Learn what you can, Post it Starting at 75% of value. Cross your Fingers. If you know the name at etc, and get two serious bidders you may get Half or better of Book value.  Wow what a ramble, Must be in some kind of mood tonight.  If you can read all this and make sense of it I would be proud, Cause has got me Lost  .  Anyway if you want to know more of my crazy Stuff Ask, maybe I will get you a copy of my value Spreadsheet.  Crazy Multi level value system that I think works, Ask me in a year or two 

[syl]

Thanks for the replys and info. Unfortunately I don't have any Shelley or Foley. Wish I did. I do have a couple of what I think are called demitasse cups with marks that I found on Chris Marshalls site. If they are authentic (I know somebodys gonna tell me they aren't) they were made sometime between 1880-1882. I think thats pretty cool. Nice ramble Ironlord.

[wendy177]

 As far as age you would need to find  the pattern name & see what year  or years the company produced that pattern & if they reproduced it at a later year then if they changed the marks or cup style  slightly for later year production as they often did. They seem to be a little large for demitasse to me but could just be the photo.  They may have made this pattern one year in coffee size & later years in  demitasse.This will all help you determine a price.

[D&b antiques]

  Trade mark's are the first ''thing'' we look for. But the last thing to be trusted. I do believe these  were designed by that company. 

[wendy177]

syl found the pattern of your last cup http://search.replacements.com/texis/search?order=clientcount-d&query=zsc217.

[ironlord1963]

   I have a question about Replacement.com pattern titles.  When There is a title name, I'm pretty sure those are manufacture names,  But in the case here and many times when looking into pattern name I run into a number usually with letter that represents the Company (ZSC217).  Are these numbers assigned by replacement.com?   Thought about this question when reading the thread, thought maybe someone here knows.   

[wendy177]

 Good question but it is the # given by the company who produced it. such as Shelley in ribbed shape, pattern- Lilly of the valley if you put in Shelley's company # 13822 in the search field  at replacements you will come up with the correct Shelley piece to match Shelley's company #, pattern & shape exactly to their (Shelley's) records .The letters are put on by replacements (she #13822) as many diffrent companies used the same #s.  did that make sense?? very confusing, Ironlord I think I caught the ramble

[syl]

Thanks for the info Wendy. The pattern is the same except for some minor differences. Might be age difference. I've been trying to post another picture but with no luck. I'll try posting it separately. It would be nice if replacements also showed the makers marks.