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tara1245

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old hand painted chest
« on: February 12, 2010, 08:14:33 pm »
Hi, this is something my mom bought when she was at college in Hawaii.  She took it to an antique shop owner about 15 years ago.  The man who looked at it told her, from what she remembers, that it was from the west coast of India and about 400 years old.  Has anyone seen something like this before?  
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4352669426_dddfb29de5.jpg
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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 08:28:02 pm »
What are the dimensions and can you post a pic of the inside, bottom side?!  Thank you!
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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2010, 10:22:27 pm »
Sure, it's about 13 inchs wide, 11 inches height.  Here are some more photos~




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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2010, 10:36:01 pm »
a couple more photos~



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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2010, 10:52:59 am »
I'm confused as to why the dealer would think it was from India, when the images appear to be Christian. Perhaps its the cow?
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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2010, 11:31:22 am »
Right on, Tales.  Doubt it is Indian.  Doubt it is Chinese.  Have no idea as to it's origin.  Guessing perhaps Coptic Christian?

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2010, 01:55:02 pm »
One thing's for sure, that chest is just amazing. If it really is that old, I'm envious! It does appear christian, especially with the sun rays/cross? behind his head.

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2010, 02:14:13 pm »

She said Goa, India-- which I think was under Portuguese rule back then. 

Does it even look like it could be that old?  I thought my mom must have not have remembered right about the age.


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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2010, 02:23:21 pm »
 :)Your box is likely to be at least a couple of Hundred years old. It's and Icon box. from the Byzantine period, theres alot of interest in a box like this.

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2010, 02:48:11 pm »
Thank you so much. :)  I will call and tell her right now.  She had no idea what it was when she bought it.  It's always been her favorite thing, she just loves it.

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2010, 05:30:35 pm »
Does anyone know what the bull would represent?  It might not be clear in the photo but he has two eyes painted on his hind quarter.


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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2010, 05:36:44 pm »
the bull was important in Byzantine history. there is certainly a story being told. and expert in Icon's  could likely tell what it's saying.

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2010, 06:21:54 pm »
  :) Thanks everyone for looking at it.  When I find out what everything represents I'll come back and post.

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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2010, 09:00:37 pm »
The Ox was important as well!  Wonder if this is a bull or an ox?

The "eye" held symbolis for 2 meanings: 1) the eye of God which is omnipresent and 2) the evil eye

A Holy person generally has a halo behind their head.  Generally Christ has one that has a cross in it as well.  The red halo appears the have what could be construed as a cross in it as well.
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Re: old hand painted chest
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2010, 09:24:43 pm »
Perhaps the eyes on the hind-quarters are an antique reference to the modern (?) expression
about "watching your ass" ?

Some things strike me 'funny' about this item , as far as it's appearance as a complete (& original) item .

Where's the wear patterns , from many hundreds of years , on this painted wood item ?

Didn't the nails ever get a little loose , metalware scrape off paint , etc. ??
Why paint worm-holes ?

If it was mine , I'd do a lead & mercury test on the inside of the box , in the event I thought it was older than 300 years .

I'm going out on my monkey-limb , in order to be very wrong , and say my guess is an item from the lepers colonies of Hawaii .(i.e. - I don't have a clue on this one yet)

Please correct me fully .

All that being said - it looks artsy , distinctive and rustic to me .
Nice item to display , tara1245 .
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