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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 06:00:21 pm »
That really is exquisite. Might be Sevres or similar quality but to be sure i think it would have to be examined out of the frame. I think i would probably refer to them as putti or cupids, not angels

For pricing, where abouts are you ?

And can you check to see if there's any writing on the steps, lower left ?
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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2014, 06:30:07 pm »
Well, well, well...after a bit more sleuthing


The plaque is by Francois Duquesnoy, Paris in 1892.


So you're looking at $2,000-2,500, although an auction house might prefer it a bit lower.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2014, 06:34:34 pm »
Sure is,, isn`t it Greenacres !!

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2014, 10:32:16 pm »
No there is nothing in the stairs and nothing text anywhere so is it just a cheap copy? Does Greenacres means copy or fake ?
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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2014, 05:15:14 am »
Can you take a close up pic of the stairs ? Also a pic of the whole back.

There are modern copies but they are slightly different to yours, which looks like an original i found online.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2014, 08:56:32 am »
I try to take pictures later this week, but there aren't any text in the stairs. And I think I have to take the back away to see it there is something in the plaque's backside.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2014, 09:37:21 am »
Ok here's some more pictures... I think that this is just somekind of cheap copy... ?

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2014, 12:50:13 pm »
What's the history behind it ?

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2014, 01:05:19 pm »
Don't know just bought it from local auction to my mom and wanted to know is there any value for this...

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2014, 01:08:17 pm »
What is your location in the world ??

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2014, 01:13:44 pm »
I'm from finland.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2014, 08:58:50 am »
You should take them to an auction house for first hand appraisal then. They don't look like the modern repros i have seen online.
There are also two reasons why someone would use that type of frame - because it was of the same era as the plaque, or a seller wanted to intentionally deceive a buyer.

The modern copies have slight differences in the detail whereas yours looks like the originals, although they tend to have Duquesnoy's name on the steps.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2014, 09:41:51 am »
Where did you find pictures from modern copies ?
I found the original plaques also from internet and noticed that there is the name on the steps...
Do you know is there any value for modern copies ? Or can you say any value for this one ?

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2014, 09:55:55 am »
Value depends entirely upon the age of the plaque which is difficult to confirm without handling it.
Having looked at the modern replicas / copies there are differences, yours appears identical to the original apart from lacking the name. However, that image of the back concerns me. Looks quite modern, as does the frame. Either a con job or it's been remounted.

http://www.marbleinspiration.co.uk/garden-wall-plaques/cherub-angel-wall-plaques/showitem-ANGEL4-PLAQUE.aspx
That's one link for a replica.

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Re: Help on info and possible price on a porcelain plaque
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2014, 10:08:02 am »
Ok and thanks. Modern copies looks like different material also... And I think that mine is remounted to frame because there are 2 frames...