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A couple of weeks ago, KC & IronLord asked about my Grandmother's spoon collection, which was in the background of a photograph on another topic. It's taken me a little bit to get this together. There are several parts to this, so I'll upload more photos  of other pieces and photos of the people who owned them.  

Here's my grandmother's spoon rack.



Here's what is in each of the rows, from left to right, by their markings:

ROW ONE:
"Bolles"  - Bolles family spoon which belonged to my great-grandfather Joseph Bolles Ely Sr. Bolles is an earlier surname.
"Beloit 1908" (JBE on back) - My great-grandfather Joseph Bolles Ely Sr.'s college spoon
"CR" - My great-grandmother, Charlotte Richardson who married Joseph Bolles Ely Sr.
"August" (1915 on back) - My great-grandmother Ellen Louise Adams birthday month spoon, sent to her from the 1915 CA Expo.
"George" - My great-grandfather George Tisdale's spoon
"AEP" - My great-great-grandmother Ann Eliza Perkins spoon

Top row front sides:



Top row back sides:



MIDDLE ROW:
(Insignia) My great-grandfather Joseph Bolles Ely Sr.'s Beloit fraternity spoon
"CLE" My mother, Charlotte Louise Ely
(The Cinderella Spoons) - Pair of matching spoons, one marked "KT 1909" on the back, the other "Pewaukee". KT was my grandmother, Katherine Tisdale. This spoon was given to her on her third birthday. "Pewaukee" is my grandfather Joseph Bolles Ely Jr.'s baby spoon, Pewaukee WI being his birthplace. When my grandparents were engaged, my gr-grandmother Charlotte Richardson Ely gave my grandfather's baby spoon to my grandmother. She couldn't believe her eyes when she saw that the pattern matched her own baby spoon. She said that was the moment she knew that it was meant to be. She called these two "the Cinderella Spoons" ever after.
"AEP" - My great-great-grandmother Ann Eliza Perkins
(Not engraved yet) Gold-dipped demitasse spoon from my grandparents wedding set, to be engraved with RJW 1986, my son's initials and his birth year.

Middle row fronts:



Middle row backs:



BOTTOM ROW:

"FFA" - My great-grandmother Ellen Louise Adams' sister Fanny Fulton Adams. Fanny became one of the few female cartographers of her time and worked in Washington DC.
(Initials uncertain) - Spoon from my grandmother's family, her notes say the oldest in the collection.
(Coronation Spoon) - Spoon from the coronation of Edward VII and Alexandra, brought from England to my gr-grandmother Ellen Louise Adams by her cousin.
"IPT" - My great-great-grandmother Isabella Phoebe Tyson
"HLT" - My great-great-grandfather Hodijah Lincoln Tisdale who married Phoebe Tyson
"A" - Adams family spoon, according to my grandmother's notes, it is one of the oldest in the Adams family.

Bottom row fronts:



Bottom row backs:



Close-up on the coronation spoon:








« Last Edit: April 21, 2010, 01:36:56 am by talesofthesevenseas »
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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2010, 01:36:07 am »
Here's a few of the ancestors mentioned above:

Standing at far left, Ellen Louise Adams Tisdale
Standing at far right Fanny Fulton Adams
Seated at left Ann Eliza Perkins Adams



Joseph Bolles Ely Jr.



Charlotte Richardson Ely and Joseph Bolles Ely Sr.



More to come...
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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2010, 06:21:46 am »
tales, that's an incredible collection (or portion of  ;)).  To be able to have in your possession such personal and sentimental
items that connect you to your ancestors and pass along to the next generations is truly special.  I love the photos as well.
You must be coming close to having your own family museum! Looking forward to more.

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2010, 06:53:18 am »
What a great collection!  It is wonderful to have the history and photos to go with each one, Tales!  I love it!

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2010, 07:04:59 am »
Tales how wonderful  to have such a cherished collection of family history!! This brings back such memories for me as my grandmother had the same spoon rack in her home & I spent many and day polishing them for her and listening to our family history. unlike your collection sadly I do not know what happened to hers. So nice to see you keeping this in your family as it should be!!! ;D

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2010, 08:05:50 am »
     Thanks for sharing tales, Those are some wonderful spoons for sure and with History.    Do you know the pattern names of the spoons?  I will look through my books a bit later in the week.   I have a couple of those patterns, the fifth one over on the first set, and I'm pretty sure I have the pattern of the coronation spoon but with out the Coronation stamp, not 100% sure I will have to dig around by boxes of Flatware to see.  Are these silver or silverplated?  Or a mix?  Many silver patterns was also used on silverplate.  The ones I think I have are silverplate.  Once again thanks for sharing such a wonderful collection.   

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2010, 10:34:46 am »
Thanks guys!  :) Wendy177, I too have wonderful memories of my grandmother telling me about these spoons when I was a little girl.

Answering the questions...

The spoons are a mix of sterling and plated.

No, I have not yet researched the hallmarks. I was thinking now would be a good time and I can post the info here. Some may be a problem, such as the Bolles family spoon. The Bolles family are an old colonial settlement family and the spoon is only marked with only a large letter G and 925/1000, the silver content. No makers mark. I think the only way I can get close to a date on that one will be to go to my genealogy records and find out which grandmother's maiden name was Bolles when she married into the Ely family, and will have to assume the spoon dates to that generation. Most are marked, and I believe with the exception of the Coronation spoon, most will turn out to be American in origin. I've been meaning to do this for a while, so this topic is the kick in the pants I need to get going.



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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2010, 11:02:48 am »
Here's the first hallmark look-up. On the way out this morning I took a quick look at the "A" Adams family spoon, last one bottom row. It is marked "Sterling" and "Freeman & Taylor"

According to this, Freeman & Taylor was a retailer in Boston in the 1890's.
http://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.com/Ret/RetF1.html

So if that info is right, it may not be quite as old as my grandmother thought, since Ann Eliza Perkins' spoons should turn out to predate the 1890's if she got them in childhood.

I'll put up photos of this hallmark and the Bolles spoon hallmark later tonight.
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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2010, 11:28:38 am »
Cool this will be fun.   The one's I do know the patterns too are.  In the first set, first spoon is called a tipped, made by many makers.  Then the second to the last on the first set is a Olive.  Very Collectible, have a couple myself.  It appears your Coronation spoon is a Raymond, considered very Collectible and thin market, made by Onieda 1898.  The first one in the last set kind of looks like a Newport, I say kind of because many were made in this style, just a bit different Edge.   Anyway really look forward to finding out the rest.  I would dig more but have to go to the real world now.  I really want to find out the pierced ones you have.  I think I have one, or at least have seen them in a book.

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2010, 12:08:22 pm »
Awesome! Thanks IronLord! That is really helpful info. After reading your post I looked for the coronation spoon and found one like mine selling for $42 on Ebay. Always nice to know what the approximate value is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370296659785

On the pierced ones, the pair in the middle row, the "Cinderella Spoons" my grandmother refered to these as "Violet" spoons. I do not know if that was the true pattern name or if it was just what the flowers looked like to her. I'll get some hallmark photos up tonight.
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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2010, 02:59:13 pm »
you are fortunate. to have such a nice collection of family history. I was a fraid to dig in mine. I heard they were mostly Boot leggers ;D ;D ;D

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2010, 06:13:07 pm »
Nice collection....nice family history!  I wish we had something like this from our family.

First row at top, middle spoon, the actual bowl of the spoon is pierced with the markings of a mote spoon (tea).  But the handle is not a true mote.  Any markings on it.

Unfortunately I can't zoom on it.
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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2010, 06:43:49 pm »
tales, if you want to check further into your Freeman & Taylor (or any others) maybe this site will be of some help.

http://www.campanian.org/americanspoon.html

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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2010, 10:46:16 pm »
Sapphire, unfortunately that site a subscription fee to use their forum.  :(

Ironlord, here are close-ups of the pierced-bowl spoon marked "CR" from the top row, in the center. The hallmark has a Y-shape with the letters "PLB" in it, then "STERLING" then "PAT. MN 28 08"



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Re: By KC & IronLord's Request: My Grandmother's Spoon Collection
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2010, 11:28:13 pm »
   What you have there is a R L B    Rogers Lunt & Bowlen
  Not sure about year or pattern yet just thought I Would share that