Need help identifying and pricing Royal Worcester 1851?

[thedeadskunk]

Hi Chaps this is my first post on here as I've drawn a blank regarding any information on the item below.So I hope you can help.Item is I believe Royal Worcester Circa 1851

[ironlord1963]

   It appears to be a Z under the hallmark, If so that would date this item to 1888.  In 1867 they started to use letters to date the marks. As for value I would snoop around for examples like this item.  It appears to be a square covered dish, is this correct?  Thanks for posting Thedeadskunk and welcome to the forum.

[thedeadskunk]

  It appears to be a Z under the hallmark, If so that would date this item to 1888.  In 1867 they started to use letters to date the marks. As for value I would snoop around for examples like this item.  It appears to be a square covered dish, is this correct?  Thanks for posting Thedeadskunk and welcome to the forum.

Cheers.The only information I've been able to obtain is this here:
http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1862-royal-worcester-porcelain-box-snail-butterfly

I have been told my item, the one posted, might be a one-off;just cannot find any information anywhere.
P.S. It's a 7 under the hallmark and the number 51 within the hallmark

[regularjoe2]

Welcome to the forum , thedeadskunk .

Cool little antique footed items .

Perhaps it could have been used for serving a Buche de Noel (AKA 'yule log cake' , 'roll cake' , 'Dromrulltarta'-Dream roll-cake ) ?

[ironlord1963]

All the Worchester hallmarks have the 51 in the center, it stands for the date of 1751 in which Worchester started.  The book I have on Their marks don't indicate any numbers used under the hallmark.  It is for sure the hallmark used before 1883, after that they had words surrounding the mark. 

[ironlord1963]

After checking another book, I did find a note about after 1862 they did use numbers under this hallmark, but it should be two digits which represents the date it was decorated.  For example if it has 73 it was decorated in 1873.  it may be possible you are missing a number, It does almost look like it may be missing a number

[thedeadskunk]

After checking another book, I did find a note about after 1862 they did use numbers under this hallmark, but it should be two digits which represents the date it was decorated.  For example if it has 73 it was decorated in 1873.  it may be possible you are missing a number, It does almost look like it may be missing a number

Many thanks for your time on this!
I've taken and placed another macro shot on the thread for you to peruse.
Kind regards, and thanks again.Still hoping it's a one-off.
Yes, it could be a 3 or 5 that is missing.

[KC]

I am sooooooo sorry, but I am having a hard time concentrating....yo ur name reminds me of an famous old song that I cant stop singing.......
So, take a trip down memory lane.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U



Now....this appears to be a planter to me, or in the terms of the time a "Jardinière".  They made all kinds of shell planters, nautical things, as well.......
http://www.worcesterporcelainmuseum.org.uk/index.cfm  They have a contact us section....if you can't find out more, contact them!

[thedeadskunk]

I am sooooooo sorry, but I am having a hard time concentrating....yo ur name reminds me of an famous old song that I cant stop singing.......
So, take a trip down memory lane.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UejelYnVI3U



Now....this appears to be a planter to me, or in the terms of the time a "Jardinière".  They made all kinds of shell planters, nautical things, as well.......
http://www.worcesterporcelainmuseum.org.uk/index.cfm  They have a contact us section....if you can't find out more, contact them!

Yes I know the song, but my username is actually the name of my auction site.Nothing to do with the song, though at one time I did try and secure the rights!

Many thanks for the link to the porcelain museum.I've e-mailed them so should here from them tomorrow as it's a bank holiday here in the UK. Fry-up Mondays we call them in out house , as bank holidays are the only time we have fried food.
Looks like the museum only helps friends of the society, so it's another blank drawn

[KC]

thedeadskunk, we won't give up....keep checking back on this.....this group keeps plugging at things, checking books, auctions, etc.  We love the thrill of the hunt and betst of all the discovery!!!!

[thedeadskunk]

I will keep checking ,as I'm pulling my hair out on this
It is not a large item. It's approx 2 7/8" x 2 1/2" x 2 3/4" inches
Also camera used is a samsung NV5 just in case anyone wishes to know.It takes great macro shots. NV7 just a good. Cheap to buy now and outperforms many new cameras

[KC]

Thanks for the dimensions..I should have asked that in the first place.  It makes it have a whole new perspective.  Not very big.....

[wendy177]

Possibly an open sugar as I have found a miniature tea pot ( not the same pattern) produced by Royal Worcester that is only 3" high. Will keep diggin.

[sapphire]

Possibly a toothpick holder???

[thedeadskunk]

Good news! I received an e-mail today regarding this item.See below:
> Dear Paul,
>
> What you have is model no. 6/66 which is listed as a 'Rustic Violet'. It
> is a small table decoration used for dried flowers and was made in the
> 1870s. The mark has a number 7 under the circle and is missing another
> digit, possibly a 5 for 75. The year letters appeared on later marks.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> From
> Mrs.Wendy Cook B.A.(Hons.)
> Curator

Still no idea of value though!!!!!
>