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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2010, 02:59:24 pm »
Everyone and their uncle used the double headed eagle, I've ran into this before. It was originaly a Roman symbol. This one does look Russian, but there were others that looked very similar. Just look up Double Headed Eagle on Wikipedia.com
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2010, 08:44:13 am »
I mailed a person in Russia that is an expert on heraldry, and he quickly replied me. The piece is Montenegrin.   http://the.heraldry.ru/text/montenegro.html .But I still dont know what it is any way. Since the lion is below the eagle, the piece may be from after 1730-ies.
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2010, 07:02:34 am »
I sent an email to the national museum in Montenegro. They told me that it is from the bonnet of a Montenegrin national costume.Then I guess the mystery is solved.
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 03:15:30 pm »
VERY cool! Thanks for following up with the info. It is great that you took the initiative and did the in-depth research on this piece. WELL DONE!!  ;D
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2010, 08:49:57 pm »
Nice job and thanks for letting us in on the results!
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2010, 11:15:25 am »
It seems that the mystery was not solved after all. I talked to an antique expert here in my country, and he did not agree that it is from a national costume. First of all after closer examination, the thread is made of gold(because of all the dirt it was difficult to see), and the original background color is purple(velvet). Very expensive materials in the 18th century. Because of this facts, he argued that it may be from some sort of king guardians costume. But of course that is just a theory, so I guess I have to investigate a little more.
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2010, 12:49:29 pm »
Interesting!! Keep us posted!
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Re: old piece of embroidery
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2010, 09:03:31 am »

Got this from an another antique expert, interesting theory:

This might well be the bottom side of a gaming purse. Gaming
purses were made with a circular, stiffened base and the gathered sides
were formed from a narrow circle of cloth such as velvet, which
released to form an open container for coins or gaming chips. Many were
monogrammed to ensure that takings were claimed by their rightful owners.
Even though the coat of arms might have been inspired by the Coat of
Arms of Montenegro, they look quite fantasist and, in our opinion, they
don't particularly refer to a Royal provenance.
 

Link to similar item:
http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O170926/gaming-purse/
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