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angelbrotherston

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Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« on: August 28, 2010, 05:03:59 am »
Found this fellow about 7 years ago and have tried unsuccessfully to get information re: origin, artist, period.  Basically any information at all.  He is Aprox. 1 1/2 ft tall and I have absolutely no clue as to the materials.  It appears to be wood but where it was sanded on the forehead (it was that way when I got it) it is nonporous and when I tap on it it feels almost like a plastic.  It's very heavy and when turned over you can see it's filled with concrete and had a felt covering.  On his right shoulder there is an inscription and the closest I can make out is "Triam or Triarn Flam???  I do know the third word is "Paris".  Any help would be extremely appreciated.

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2010, 01:20:41 pm »
BUMP

Beautiful handiwork for a carved piece......are you sure it is wood or is it resin?
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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2010, 01:51:49 pm »
Kinda looks like Friar n Tiam to me but it makes no sense.

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 03:15:32 pm »
Just wanted to try this to see if playing with it made it any 'clearer'......if not, ignore  ;)

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2010, 03:40:11 pm »
angel, are the words inscribed or raised? Just wondering if you tried doing a 'rubbing', if it would help make it clearer by eliminating any interference by light/shadow and possibly marks that don't 'belong' ?

Explanation of rubbing....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_rubbing

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2010, 10:58:26 pm »
Great suggestion sapphire…beat me to it!
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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 01:10:02 am »
The words are inscribed and I tried rubbing and it still comes out as Triarn Tiam, Paris, assuming these are the letter T.  Doing the rubbing did make the letters alot more legible. So thank you for the helpful suggestion.  I just cannot find anything on this yet..  frustrating.  And it's possible that it's made out of a resin but the back below the shoulders look so much like wood and whereas the forehead is hard and shiny the back is softer and you can almost take a fingernail and scrape the material off.  It has me stumped. I can't even think of a material that this resembles.  Please keep bringing suggestions or answers, you all have been so helpful and I do appreciate it very much.

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 07:13:34 pm »
I even tried researching this as a J (We were taught to make our capital J's much like the way of a capital T when I was a youngun in school).  Still found nothing.
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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 07:29:01 pm »
The first letter could be an "F". Looks pretty close to the way I was taught to write a cursive "F".
When I search "Friarn Paris" I get quite a few hits for streets and people but nothing that connects to this...
Edit: Sorry wayward, didn't notice that you already said "F." :P
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 07:33:55 pm by hosman321 »

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2010, 07:40:38 pm »
I have no idea if this applies at all but it's one of the few things with "friarn" in it's name. Maybe there's some sort of clue in it? ???
But this street is in England, now that I think of it. Not Paris. Doesn't hurt to post though.
http://www.friarn.co.uk/FSheritage/chrono.htm

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2010, 07:48:45 pm »
Maybe the "Paris" is for "Plaster of Paris"? Like this one.
http://manila.olx.com.ph/bust-sculpture-of-dr-jose-p-rizal-iid-33731103

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 08:10:01 pm »
And another.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/archive/200202A38.html
The ones I am seeing are worth $10,000-20,000. If yours is actually old, it could be worth a lot. Don't do anything to hurt it until you have it appraised!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2010, 08:11:45 pm by hosman321 »

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Re: Anyone have any knowledge re: Busts/Sculptures?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2010, 08:33:16 pm »
Ok, thanks again hosman321, and no, I don't plan on doing anything to him.  I have had him for some time and he just sits in the corner and collects dust.  You have been very helpful.  Again, thanks.