Question RE: Restoration of Painting from 1800's

[Marc-Barr]

I recently purchased a miniature painting. The painting has some damage and I'd like to have some restoration done. Please see pictures below. Can anyone recommend a decent place online to have this done? I've never had restoration work done so am kind of new to this. Any advice or suggestions are welcome.Also, I am open to suggestions regarding frame work. I'd like to get a nice frame for this but am curious if something like a wood or a bronze or brass/metal would be better. I plan on displaying this on an easel on either a shelf or console/desk.Many thanks again!

[marcylove]

That is really nice.  It's rare when you see this type of artwork with subject matters smiling.  I really like it.  I'm like you though, wouldn't know how to start with a restoration process.  Maybe contact an antique dealer to recommend someone for you?

[fancypants]

I'd strongly suggest that you search for an Art Conservator in your region , rather than any o/l business .

I've seen a few pieces of work that have been 'repaired' by self-proclaimed 'pro' types that have really done damage to paintings , especially oils .

Sometimes it's just best (& cost-effective) to simply have a painting cleaned , v/s having it 'restored' & then have the framing elements up-dated to modern acid-free/UV protected standards (this is pricey enough , as it is , IMO) .

Oil paintings with severe cracks & such will always show the repairs , and can just look 'wrong' .

A professional Art Conservator can offer the best suggestions for your painting , IMO .


Cool little item !

[mariok54]

I agree with fancypants ...but what a weird painting!!! I can't recall ever seeing a painting with so many cheesy grins!!! When you say miniature, what size is it?
What do you know about the painting? Based upon what you paid for it would you be prepared to pay $$$ more for a restoration job? Good Auction houses will always (well, over here they will) point you in the direction of reliable restorers.

[Marc-Barr]

Thanks for the suggestions. I didn't mention it but this is not a regular size painting but a tiny portrait done by hand. I'll look around my area and inquire with some antique dealers.

When I first saw it I thought they were Hobbits(LOL) The guy in the middle looks at first like his ear is pointed(it's not though) Measures 3 & 5/8 inches by 3 & 1/8 inches approx. [not including frame]. 1800's, miniature of 'The Three Carracci'. Lodovico, Agostino & Annibale. Inscribed in a handwritten panel to the reverse. Framed in a period ebonised frame, which is well worn and in fairly poor condition. Painted on natural panel, which has sadly cracked in a few places. It is such an unusual portrait and finely painted, that it is still very charming despite some of the damages. There are splits, some surface marks, damp damage to the top edge, some old retouching in places. The frame is also worn condition, with splits/losses and old residue to the reverse. I'm adding a few more pics. Many thanks again!!!

[Oceans64]

I think it's a great painting.  After looking at Civil War pics for the past few weeks I have to say those smiling faces are like a ray of sunshine!!  I'd probably keep the frame stashed away somewhere with a note and a picture.  You never know what future generations will find appealing – poor condition aside.

[mariok54]

Those three brothers were 16th 17th century artists, weren't they?  Are you sure this painting is 18th Century?
Unfortunately my internet connection is incredibly slow so I can't even try to Google them

[mariok54]

Internet is behaving itself again, and found this straight off ... worth a look, if only for the grins!

http://fineart.ha.com/common/view_item.php?Sale_No=638&Lot_No=24045

[Marc-Barr]

Not certain of it's 18th century or not. I saw it,liked it,and got it for a reasonable price due to the condition. I was very happy and think I got a hell of a bargain.So,spending a little more on restoration is something I'd be willing to go for. However,some valid points have come up regarding it could make it worse. I think I'll take it to a few antique dealers and listen to what they suggest.I really want to do this item a service and display it without taking anything away from it.Thanks again to everyone!

[talesofthesevenseas]

I'm inclined towards leaving it unrestored and unaltered because I think unless it would help stabilize or preserve it, I think they are charming just the way they are and that the age adds to the character of the whole piece. I like the frame too, it seems like a good match. Such jolly rogues! 

I'd be curious to know if in other works by the same artist if the 3/4 angled faces are slightly "off" or skewed, it looks like it was part of the artist's style. It's different but I really like it. It adds to the whole rogue-ish look of the painting. These guys look like they are ready to go enjoy a pint of mead down the road at the tavern!

[talesofthesevenseas]

Here is a bio page on the three jolly gents:

http://arts.jrank.org/pages/14823/Carracci-family.html

Annibale did an interesting one of two boys smiling:

[Marc-Barr]

Thanks again. I did not know anything about the artists or subjects. Its good to know. Thanks again for everyone's advice!

[fancypants]

I do like your little painting of those three cads , Marc-Barr .

I think they look dandy just the way they are , semi-ravaged by the ages !

[KC]

I really like this - keep in same condition as long as it doesn't deteriorate.

The smiles/eyes are terrific....the kind that give people the willies!  The smile follows you around the room!!!!  

Condition gives character and establishes age.

Okay, I will ask the question that others want to know but didn't ask.....how much did you pay?

Okay, anyone idea on value?

I think this has to be seen, hands-on by a specialist due to age (establish it) and establish who painted it!

[Marc-Barr]

I paid a little less than $300 for it ($277 to be exact) The few people I showed it said it was a bargain and I got one offer for double that already. I really do love it and think everyone is right about leaving it as is. I did hear from one person to consider putting glass over it. I had never heard of this before and thought it might look odd.