Animated Cap Guns? RARE??

[olecanalantiques]

Thought these were neat!! Thinking of buying them if i can find out some info!!

[talesofthesevenseas]

I agree they are neat, but this site lists the auction value at $300 - $500. Maybe you can talk 'em down a bit?

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3019349

[olecanalantiques]

I did find this and there is another gun that isn't in the photo that is black..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Antique-Animated-Cap-Gun-THE-CHINESE-MUST-GO-/170562822139#ht_714wt_1127

[talesofthesevenseas]

Here's another that sold at $210. I'm finding these with a search for Kenton lightening express.

http://www.dakotapaul.com/items/showitem.asp?iid=884

This one says $350 - $450

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6702240

[olecanalantiques]

I agree they are neat, but this site lists the auction value at $300 - $500. Maybe you can talk 'em down a bit?

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/3019349

Thanks!

The deal is, there are 6 guns, one i can not for the life of me remember what he called it but it is black and he called it something but i can't remember, im willing to bet next month on eBay i could probably make a few bucks and keep one or two for free.... or three.... or 4 LOL!!!!!!

[olecanalantiques]

Thanks gain!!

I'm starting to see a pattern here though, all the ones im finding are the trains? I wonder if others are rarer like the cannon??

[olecanalantiques]

Here is the black one, im guessing these types are a lot rarer??




I did find this... 

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/8091047

But, around here those little guns could bring a LOT more than $400 and on eBay may fetch over $600 for the Punch & Judy model, of course i could be wrong.

I still think i may go ahead and get em and just sell them one by one, every month or two...

[ironlord1963]

   Impressive again.  O.k. excuse the ignorance here, but how do these work?   Cap guns as in the little paper caps ?  And does like the train hit against the tab at the end of the barrel?   How old are these?   How long has paper caps been along?   And is there a test later, and a accredited degree later     Sorry alot of question just kind of wanted to know.

[olecanalantiques]

I'm in the same boat as you Iron, although it appears the Japan models (PUNCH AND JUDY types) are much earlier than the Arcade Train & Cannon types. You are correct to, you pull the little cannon or train back and pull the trigger!! The Punch & Judy model does it a little different but still neat as all get out!!!

[talesofthesevenseas]

The reason I was able to find the info on the train ones was because I could read the tag, which was labled with "Lightening Express" and I found it was made by Kenton. Is there any further info on the cannon's tag?

Love the one of the little girl getting the boot!!! Too cute!

[talesofthesevenseas]

I found the cap gun above at this auction. Not sure if this is an old listing, but they might be ale to tell you what it sold for.

http://news-antique.com/?id=781410

[wendy177]

Olecanal The punch & Judy cast-iron animated cap pistol was produced by Ives, c 1880 patented- punch explodes cap with nose on Judy's back Aprox. 5"  Check Sotheby's  New York archives as I know they had them for auction as photos in my antique toy books state the photos are courtesy them. value $425.00 and UP.   Lightning express c 1913 later than punch & Judy but higher in value $600.00 & up Produced by Arcade or Kenton.  also Courtesy Sotheby's New York. Cannon $500.00  Southeby's also.

[olecanalantiques]

How old is your book?? Just curious..

[wendy177]

It is Colleting Toys  edition no. 8 by Richard O'Brien  1997

[hosman321]

I had no idea that Punch and Judy was so old!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punch_and_Judy