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Before I lose track of this link I'm going to post it here for you. Looks to be a great place to get info on all your clocks.http://mb.nawcc.org/index.phpI'm thinking your second pic is an 8 day Ogee, which might put it around mid 1800's.........still looking
A little more info here.......http://www.clockrepairireland.com/details.php?id=95