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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #60 on: February 19, 2013, 08:53:43 pm »
The friend found it he said in a wall. Maybe a hiding spot. Not sure.
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« Reply #61 on: February 19, 2013, 09:33:09 pm »
Forget that Ann was a widow. Husbands last name was Clay
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« Reply #62 on: February 19, 2013, 09:46:01 pm »
OMG! Anne Curtis Clay is the Curtis Center. Cool history. I forgot they were all Quakers then! It was against the law to dance. She was one of the first dance teachers. The "Big" George Washington actually went to the shows.
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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2013, 10:04:43 pm »
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2013, 10:36:36 pm »
Cool little item , greenacres !

D'ya think it is designed to hold beer/mead ?

It sure (I don't know the dimentions) looks like a plan for somebody(s) to get hammered , though ; "Yes , dear ... the mug told me to ..." .

Neat research story , so far .

I've got some original Phil documents (newpaper-sized) from the 1870's , census stuff , I'm pretty sure .... will haul them out just to see if there happens to be anything valid on 'em , related to the folks/addresses IMO it's a good thing to have any original (of the time period) docs , v/s the photocopied & such , for a provenance ... give me a few days , please .... they're old & fragile , like me !
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2013, 11:44:18 pm »
Found the connection, lol ;D Capt. Matthew Cline knew Hyam Solomon. I got smart! ;D Haym Solomon built the first synagogue "Mikvah Israel" in Philadelphia. Cline was a Jew. I checked to see if he was a member and contributor. BINGO!
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« Reply #66 on: February 19, 2013, 11:46:09 pm »
The only synagogue in town! ;D Ben Franklin was a contributor.
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #67 on: February 19, 2013, 11:48:00 pm »
You're on a roll!!!   :)
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #68 on: February 20, 2013, 06:44:45 am »
Yes. It wasn't John Cline. It was his son Matthew who may have been married there.
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #69 on: February 20, 2013, 07:58:33 am »
Quote from: greenacres on February 20, 2013, 06:44:45 am
Yes. It wasn't John Cline. It was his son Matthew who may have been married there.
you may want to substitute the C with a K ..as in Kline..or Klein.as this was the more common way of spelling.this name.... many people and Not only Jewish people did this...as a way of hiding there true origins...my father did it whilst in a POW camp in Italy...the proper spelling of my surname is Omelyash...which is Ukrainian.....but the way its spelt now is Omelasz...which sounds and looks Polish...this was done...because after the war..the Russians were hunting down any Ukrainians that had joined the Germans...so as a means of self preservation...Wasy l  Davidovich Omelyash became ...Wasyl Omelasz...had he not done so...I probably would not be sitting here today....
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« Reply #70 on: February 20, 2013, 09:31:03 am »
Interesting because he was Polish.
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« Reply #71 on: February 20, 2013, 10:01:10 am »
Although well prior to the war my grandfathers family dropped the German spelling of their name !!  Was Burkhardt and started spelling it Burkhart !! Have no idea why except it was easier to spell !!
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« Reply #72 on: February 20, 2013, 10:07:19 am »
That was common. My husband's was Comisarcyk. Then it was changed to Comisar. It was easier.
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #73 on: February 20, 2013, 10:23:13 am »
So what date are you now thinking this was made ?
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Re: Fake ?
« Reply #74 on: February 20, 2013, 10:42:29 am »
I'm still not sure. The Cline's only live in the till 1753, so it's confusing. The synogogue wasn't built in the 1780's. I have someone helping me. Hopefully they will get back to me soon. Haym was very famous by 1780. I'm working on it. I have a book I want to look at the I bought several years ago. It's called "Philadelphia, A 300 Year History". I want to see if there is any info that could give any ideas. Then, I wait for the appraiser to get back to me. They are doing some research.
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