Fake ?

[greenacres]

The way I think is it would have to be somone who knew him back then. It's not a common story they tell. It'sall about Ben Franklin, George Washington, Independence. I wouldn't have ever heard about this if I hadn't found the mug. According to history if you look at the back of a dollar bill there is a Jewish Star, and that was for Hyam Solomon. Who knew! Lol My husband has done major historic rehabs in "Old City" and has never heard of it. If I ask anyone in Philadelphia, I don't think they would know.

[sapphire]

greenacres, Beth Wenger of Univ. of Penn. (Director of Jewish Studies) might also be one to contact. If you read through this 'Snopes report' on the bill the last three paragraphs are about the 'star'.

http://www.snopes.com/business/money/solomon.asp

[greenacres]

Thanks! My daughter works at Penn. I'll look at their web site.

[sapphire]

Without going back and reading all the posts (heading out to work) did you come across the spelling of his name as 'Salomon' ?

[Ipcress]

I'm still not sure. The Cline's only live in the till 1753, so it's confusing. The synogogue wasn't built in the 1780's. I have someone helping me. Hopefully they will get back to me soon. Haym was very famous by 1780. I'm working on it. I have a book I want to look at the I bought several years ago. It's called "Philadelphia, A 300 Year History". I want to see if there is any info that could give any ideas. Then, I wait for the appraiser to get back to me. They are doing some research.

But you can research dates and try to connect it with the Cline's, but it could have been a resident in the early 20th.

Like i said before, the base is incredibly clean and unmarked, people didn't really mark their work in that manner until the late 19th century - unless i guess there was nowhere else left to write the address   Same for the shape etc

Really hope you're right though.

[greenacres]

Well, Ijust wrote to the women at Uof P. We will see what she thinks. I just find the topic odd. I live in Phila. my whole life and didn't know the story. Plus notice the way I abbreviate Phila., it was different back then, Philada. I should find out when that started. But, it is something I have to look at.

[greenacres]

Ihave several things that have been located in walls that look pristine. I have a Carter's "reel ink bottle w/ label" that looks almost new. Bottles too.

[greenacres]

Beth Wenger is setting me up with an appt. at the Jewish Museum. This maybe the best answer yet.

[greenacres]

The mug has to be from the 1840's - 1890's. Philada. was used in that time period. Haym Solomon was not mentioned in the 300yrs of Philadelphia history. That's how obscure he is.

[sapphire]

Beth Wenger is setting me up with an appt. at the Jewish Museum. This maybe the best answer yet.

Sweet!! Make sure you take notes........and report back 

[greenacres]

I will. I have a little nervous excitement. It's the thrill of the hunt!

[KC]

Have fun on your adventure!

[greenacres]

Thanks KC! They basically do a strip search at that museum. It's like going to the airport. I've been there. You have to be searched, and remove your shoes, and open your bags and go through a metal detector.

[KC]

Wow...which museum is this again?

[greenacres]

The "National Jewish History Museum". It had a gala opening. Jerry Seinfeld was there among many celebs were there.