Author Topic: help with this piece  (Read 2561 times)

Alan cañedo

  • Guest
help with this piece
« on: June 16, 2011, 10:27:39 pm »
Hi everyboy, my ame is Alan, i´m in north of México.

I need helt to know about this piece, my dad buy it si don know the use, if anybody can helpme:

Here the pics:




















mart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19849
  • Karma: +122/-1
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2011, 10:16:11 am »
Are there markings anywhere ??  What is the size ? Look on the bottom of the interior pan as well !!

mariok54

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1550
  • Karma: +4/-0
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2011, 10:17:52 am »
Hi

What size is it? And I'm not sure what I'm seeing, but does the lid swivel?

Alan cañedo

  • Guest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2011, 11:44:44 am »
It has no mark or inscription somewhere.

The cover turns.

I can assume it is a religious object, but I can not tell.

Here are more pictures with details.























CuriousCollector

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 353
  • Karma: +2/-0
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2011, 11:46:46 am »
A salt cellar maybe?

mariok54

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1550
  • Karma: +4/-0
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2011, 11:51:19 am »
My first thought was an incense burner, but then again, I'd have thought that it would have had a pierced top???

ironlord1963

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2330
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • View Profile
    • Ironlord's Treasure Chest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2011, 11:59:40 am »
Butter Pate, Silverplate, Late 1800's early 1900's

mart

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 19849
  • Karma: +122/-1
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2011, 12:35:05 pm »
It looks brass. And the face on it looks European !!  Could be a salt container as salt was once very valuable !! Or some other spice ?? I don`t think its a religious object !!

ironlord1963

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2330
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • View Profile
    • Ironlord's Treasure Chest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2011, 12:54:00 pm »
Butter or Cheese Pate or Dish, These was used in the late and early Century,  Usually has a Glass insert.  If you look at ebay under silverplate Butter Dish you will see several of the round Covered ones.

waywardangler

  • Guest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2011, 01:14:47 pm »
The top looks like it could be silver because of the stamped design. Not usually seen with silver plate. The rest does appear to be silver plate. I would look this over with a loupe very closely for hallmarks as they could be tiny and overlooked with the naked eye.

ironlord1963

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2330
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • View Profile
    • Ironlord's Treasure Chest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2011, 01:22:19 pm »
Wayward is right, it is rare to find a Silverplate item that does not have a mark, Modern silverplate sometimes has no marks.  But much pride in silverplate items and 95% will have some sort of marks.  Look on the back side of the feet, many times I have found them here.

KC

  • Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11660
  • Karma: +93/-0
  • Forever Blessed!
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2011, 02:10:19 pm »
Butter dish!!!!  The top design looks almost egyptian revival...but the Butter God isn't that style!
I'm from the South - but please don't mistake my Southern Manners/Accent/Charm as a weakness!

Alan cañedo

  • Guest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2011, 07:30:31 pm »
look for markings on three legs, but found none.

some details of the engraving on the top






mariok54

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1550
  • Karma: +4/-0
    • View Profile
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2011, 11:47:54 pm »
As they say in the Trade... Looks like someone's taken a Brillo Pad to it!
Still an interesting piece.


waywardangler

  • Guest
Re: help with this piece
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2011, 06:32:21 am »
There just is no good substitute for silver polish and elbow grease.