HELP ME PLEASE 1850 french basillica bronze candelabras

[new2antiques]

I was given these and am wondering the value. One is 29 in. tall and 22 in. wide. 2 more that are 26 in. tall and 13 in. wide. They say 1850 and were used in a church.  

[mart]

Are these marked in any way ??

[hosman321]

 If the only marking is "1850" then I would assume it is a model number rather than a year. Are you able to post a picture of the 1850 mark? They are really cool and interesting!

[mart]

These look much newer than that !!

[sapphire]

I'm thinking they have been painted at some point.....something doesn't set quite right.

And on that note, found these..........


#1377 PR ECCLESIASTICAL CANDELABRA 19th c. French gilt brass candelabra, gilt brass and opalescent milk glass lilies and branches, one with four lights, one with five lights, triangular base with acanthus and scrolled decoration, originally used on altar dedicated to the Virgin Mary. No mark. Size: 18"H, 15 1/2"W, 9"D. Condition: milk glass lilies loose, one branch loose, wear to gilt, other age appropriate wear. Est $180 - 360

#1608    FRENCH ECCLESIASTICAL CANDELABRA 19th c. French ecclesiastical candelabra, five light on three acanthus leaf feet, decorated with gilt metal and opalescent white glass lilies and enameled flowers with metal grapes and leaves. No mark. Size: 28"H, 12"W, 6"D. Condition: age appropriate wear, one lily blossom missing, others loose.  Est  $150 - 300

http://www.dargate.com/cat/248_auction/248_images/248light.htm

[mart]

I thought these might be gilt brass rather than bronze but color doesn`t look right for that either !!  Its way too dull and flat !!

[hosman321]

Goes to show how much I know! I guess they are that old. I still would like to see the mark for my own knowledge. And I agree that they were probably painted.